Army Rejects Gillani Claims - Gillani sacks Defence Secretary

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    RAWALPINDI: The allegations attributed by Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilan against Army Chief Pervez Kayani and DG ISI Shuja Pasha are very serious, ISPR stated in a press release.

    The ISPR statement said: “APP issued a statement on 9th of January 2012 giving details of the interview given by the Honourable Prime Minister of Pakistan to The People’s Daily Online of China when the COAS was also on an official visit to China. The Honourable Prime Minister inter alia termed the responses given by COAS and DG ISI in the alleged Memo Case to the Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan as unconstitutional and illegal”.

    “This part of the statement has been quoted and widely debated in the media. There can be no allegation more serious than what the Honourable Prime Minister has leveled against COAS and DG ISI and has unfortunately charged the officers for violation of the Constitution of the Country. This has very serious ramifications with potentially grievous consequences for the Country.”

    The statement does not take into account following important facts:-
    - COAS and DG ISI were cited as Respondents in the Petitions as such and after hearing the parties the Honourable Supreme Court served notices directly to the Respondents. This was not objected to by the learned Attorney General of Pakistan.

    - The responses by the respondents were sent to the Ministry of Defence for onward submission to the Honourable Supreme Court, through Attorney General (Law Ministry).

    - A letter was also dispatched to the Attorney General of Pakistan and the Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan informing that the replies have been submitted to the Ministry of Defence.

    - It is emphasized that copies of the statements of the two Respondents were not forwarded directly to the Supreme Court.

    - Responsibility for moving summaries and obtaining approvals of Competent Authority thereafter lay with the relevant ministries and not with the Respondents.

    It is also highlighted that after a meeting between the Honourable Prime Minister and the COAS, the Honourable Prime Minister had publicly stated through a press release of 16th December 2011 that the replies submitted were “ in response to the notice of the Court through proper channel and in accordance with the rules of business.” No objections were raised before and thereafter, on the legality and constitutional status of the replies, at any time, during the last more than three weeks of hearing of the case by the Honourable Supreme Court.

    It is also categorically stated that COAS and DG ISI in their response to the Honourable Supreme Court were obliged to state facts as known to them, on the Memo Issue. The issue of jurisdiction and maintainability of the Petitions was between the Honourable Supreme Court and the Federation.

    Any expectation that COAS will not state the facts is neither constitutional nor legal. Allegiance to State and the Constitution is and will always remain prime consideration for the Respondent, who in this case has followed the book.
     
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    -- ISPR moments ago, expressed its concern over PM's statement to Chinese media calling COAS and DG ISI's act as illegal and . ISPR said that these allegations are of serious and intense level.


    -- PM dismissed Secretary Defence; Lt Gen(r) Naeem Khalid Lodhi

    -- Corps Commander meeting called at GHQ, Rawalpindi
     
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    Are we going toward another coup.
     
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    ANOTHER BREAKING NEWS:


    Brigadier Sarfraz Ali appointed new commander of 111 BRIGADE


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    For those who are not aware; the Prime Minister house falls under the influence of 111 Brigade!
     
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    breaking news

    drone came and went away.......
    the only thing that will make me happy is that martial law is announced and early elections are held
     
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    Nargis Sethi has been appointed as the new Secretary of Defence...
     
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    abe saala martial law ne pakistan ko kia de diya??
     
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    Secretary defence was dismissed over his letter on the memo issue to the court most probably.

    But saying that the visit was illegal???

    That is just mad.
     
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    They should follow Gen Aslam Baig's example. Impose martial law and get a legal notice from supreme court to conduct elections in 90 days..
     
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    oh no no no.. You got it wrong. I think you forgot but some days ago the PM of Pakistan told the chinese media that the army chief and DG ISI's reply to supreme court regarding the memo issue is a violation of constitution (as they first need to affirm it from the PM house and ministry of defence)....
     
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    PM sacks Secretary Defence

    PM’s allegations may have “serious ramifications”: ISPR



    ---------- Post added at 05:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:29 PM ----------

    PM sacks Secretary Defence

    PM’s allegations may have “serious ramifications”: ISPR



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    PM Gilani
     
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    PM Gilani’s allegations against COAS, DG ISI serious: ISPR

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    RAWALPINDI: Pakistan's army warned Wednesday that critical comments made by the prime minister would have "serious ramifications" and could wreak "potentially grievous consequences for the country".

    Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani earlier in the week told China's People's Daily online that the army chief and head of intelligence services had acted unlawfully by making unilateral submissions to an ongoing Supreme Court inquiry.

    The ISPR statement said: "APP issued a statement on 9th of January 2012 giving details of the interview given by the Honourable Prime Minister of Pakistan to The People's Daily Online of China when the COAS was also on an official visit to China. The Honourable Prime Minister inter alia termed the responses given by COAS and DG ISI in the alleged Memo Case to the Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan as unconstitutional and illegal".

    This part of the statement has been quoted and widely debated in the media. There can be no allegation more serious than what the Honourable Prime Minister has leveled against COAS and DG ISI and has unfortunately charged the officers for violation of the Constitution of the Country. This has very serious ramifications with potentially grievous consequences for the Country.

    The statement does not take into account following important facts:-
    - COAS and DG ISI were cited as Respondents in the Petitions as such and after hearing the parties the Honourable Supreme Court served notices directly to the Respondents. This was not objected to by the learned Attorney General of Pakistan.

    - The responses by the respondents were sent to the Ministry of Defence for onward submission to the Honourable Supreme Court, through Attorney General (Law Ministry).

    - A letter was also dispatched to the Attorney General of Pakistan and the Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan informing that the replies have been submitted to the Ministry of Defence.

    - It is emphasized that copies of the statements of the two Respondents were not forwarded directly to the Supreme Court.

    - Responsibility for moving summaries and obtaining approvals of Competent Authority thereafter lay with the relevant ministries and not with the Respondents.

    It is also highlighted that after a meeting between the Honourable Prime Minister and the COAS, the Honourable Prime Minister had publicly stated through a press release of 16th December 2011 that the replies submitted were " in response to the notice of the Court through proper channel and in accordance with the rules of business." No objections were raised before and thereafter, on the legality and constitutional status of the replies, at any time, during the last more than three weeks of hearing of the case by the Honourable Supreme Court.

    It is also categorically stated that COAS and DG ISI in their response to the Honourable Supreme Court were obliged to state facts as known to them, on the Memo Issue. The issue of jurisdiction and maintainability of the Petitions was between the Honourable Supreme Court and the Federation.

    Any expectation that COAS will not state the facts is neither constitutional nor legal. Allegiance to State and the Constitution is and will always remain prime consideration for the Respondent, who in this case has followed the book.


    GEO NEWS
     
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    PM sacks Defence Secretary
     
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    It seems Pakistan will again make a record of an elected government never to complete 5yrs term in entire history of Pakistan.
     
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    In case of coup who will be in charge of Pakistan at that time?

    The very $ame Kayani and Co. who are $erving U$A.

    When the things fall on them it would have "serious ramifications" and could wreak "potentially grievous consequences for the country".

    And when things fall on the country?