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India’s plans to modernise its ageing air force have triggered a tit-for-tat Pakistani programme that could exacerbate strategic tensions in South Asia, officials and analysts told "The National".

Defence analysts said the planned air force expansions were part of an arms race between India and Pakistan that dates back to the 1960s and the height of the Cold War.

The South Asian neighbours, both of which possess nuclear arsenals, have fought three wars and as many regionalised conflicts since gaining independence from British colonial rule in August 1947.






Siemon Wezeman, senior fellow at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute’s arms transfer programme, said: "Although India and Pakistan deny it, an arms race is on. India wants to become a regional power, and is building its arsenal accordingly, while Pakistan wants to maintain a rough parity for survival" in the event of another conflict

His comments came after an announcement by the Pakistani minister for defence, Ahmed Mukhtar, that Pakistan is to acquire 50 advanced JF-17 Thunder warplanes, to be co-produced with China at a factory about 50km west of Islamabad.
The new warplanes would carry an Italian "avionics package" that is far superior to the Chinese technology installed on the 30 aircraft currently being acquired by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), military officials close to the project said.

Two squadrons have been inducted since the first Thunder was manufactured in November 2010, with Pakistan likely to acquire 250 to 300 of the warplanes by 2015, defence analysts said.

Mr Mukhtar said China had also agreed in principle to supply Pakistan with FC-20 warplanes, a comparatively advanced aircraft that is taking over as the vanguard of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force.

Pakistan is initially seeking 36 FC-20s, but any deal would be subject to Beijing being satisfied that the transfer of advanced military technology would not affect its trade relationships with the west, said the military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Defence analysts and former diplomats said the expansion of Pakistani air power is a direct response to India’s plans to acquire 126 state-of-the-art western warplanes, defence analysts said.

Indian officials have said they would place an order this summer, either for the Eurofighter Typhoon or Dassault Rafale warplanes.

New Delhi in April rejected competing bids from US manufacturers, Boeing and Lockheed Martin, causing embarrassment to the administration of the US president Barack Obama, which had lobbied hard for the deal.

India is looking to replace its ageing fleet of Soviet-vintage and French warplanes with Western warplanes and the Sukhoi-30MK1 aircraft, 272 of which are being manufactured in India under a joint venture with Russia. One hundred forty-two of the SU-30 aircraft had been delivered by January.

Similarly, Pakistan is phasing out a fleet of Chinese-built aircraft, based on modified Soviet designs, and French warplanes dating back to the 1980s.

Pakistan also possesses US-made F-16s, including 18 advanced Block 52 models, delivery of which was completed in February, along with upgrade kits for 26 F-16s acquired in the 1980s.

Indian analysts have said the Pakistani F-16 sales were a significant factor in India’s rejection of US bids to supply the 126 new warplanes.

The US seeks to strike a balance in its relations with India and Pakistan, but often ends up annoying both, the analysts said.

US military sales to Pakistan are frequently criticised by India’s government, while Pakistan regularly complains about the US agreement in 2008 to supply nuclear-power technology to India.

China has also opposed the nuclear deal, because of its strategic competition with India for influence in Asia, the analysts said.

Competing international strategic partners continue to back either South Asian side,- a scenario reminiscent of the Cold War, the analysts said.

They also said India has the support of Russia and the west, while China backs Pakistan.

Akram Zaki, formerly Pakistan’s chief diplomat, said: "After the US nuclear deal with India, China came to the conclusion that the stability of Pakistan is in its national interest.

"In ideological terms, China wants peace and stability in South Asia, but that is only possible if the imbalance created by the US’s extraordinary support to India is to some extent corrected".

Mr Zaki said that China’s strategic philosophy was to make Pakistan "as far as is possible" self-sufficient in the production of defence equipment.

The analysts said competing strategic objectives in Asia of the west and China would continue to fuel arms purchases by India and Pakistan.

Chinese defence co-operation with Pakistan would reflect US policy on China, they said.

"It has a lot to do with how the Democrats and Republicans have seen China and its rise, and what policy is going to come from Washington: containment or constrainment," said Maria Sultan, director of the South Asian Strategic Stability Institute, a London-based think tank.

India’s expansion of its defence capability is also increasingly aimed at the Sino-Pakistan alliance, the analysts said. [SIZE="4[/B]"][/SIZE]
 
Pakistan should build up its arm. Doesn't need to outnumber India. India is so insecure that you just need to raise the number a little and they will jump by pissing huge amount of money in expensive weapons. That will keep most of us outside happy as we can charge them an arm or a leg.
 
the mkst important part of the article is where it says *beijing will transfer advanced technology to pakistan only if it doesnt effect its trade relations with the west*
 
When was there an arms race? What is the defence budget of the two countries? Do people here really think India cannot spend more on her defence? If at all there was an arms "race" India just increases her budget and with in an year end up in a position where pakistan cannot be even after 10 years.
 
When was there an arms race? What is the defence budget of the two countries? Do people here really think India cannot spend more on her defence? If at all there was an arms "race" India just increases her budget and with in an year end up in a position where pakistan cannot be even after 10 years.

You forget Pakistan's quality multiplier. India has poor quality in arm forces. For every dollar Pakistan spends, India has to spend ten dollars to catch up.
 
You forget Pakistan's quality multiplier. India has poor quality in arm forces. For every dollar Pakistan spends, India has to spend ten dollars to catch up.
Oh yes...sorry mate I forgot this very important point. May bad!! And yes...for every 1 soldier India has to have 10 soldiers. So yes...the arms race is on and India is loosing.:cry:
 
You forget Pakistan's quality multiplier. India has poor quality in arm forces. For every dollar Pakistan spends, India has to spend ten dollars to catch up.

Hahahaha you mean since we are gonna buy a 4.5th gen fighter the US is gonna offer them a 5th gen fighter for a cheaper price??....Wow Pakistan is respected by all the countries in the world ...they gonna sell them real good quality weapons but for our cheap army we are gonna get cheap weapons for a higher price...damn lifes a b***h. We are "SCREWED"
 
Hahahaha you mean since we are gonna buy a 4.5th gen fighter the US is gonna offer them a 5th gen fighter for a cheaper price??....Wow Pakistan is respected by all the countries in the world ...they gonna sell them real good quality weapons but for our cheap army we are gonna get cheap weapons for a higher price...damn lifes a b***h. We are "SCREWED"

one thing is for sure. This comment of yours was really cheap
 
India is arming it self with a pace unseen before . there is no way pakistan will ever catch up or even be in the race as they have 10% of our defense budget as their budget . also a race if run when the two contestants have a chance against each other . there is no way that Pakistan can match the amount we are investing or the equipment we are buying .

as to the myth that one of their soldiers is equal to 10 of ours . its just that a MYTH
 
India is arming it self with a pace unseen before . there is no way pakistan will ever catch up or even be in the race as they have 10% of our defense budget as their budget . also a race if run when the two contestants have a chance against each other . there is no way that Pakistan can match the amount we are investing or the equipment we are buying .

as to the myth that one of their soldiers is equal to 10 of ours . its just that a MYTH

you sound like hobbit from Lord of the rings *sauron is increasing his powers at a pace never seen before and soon the middle earth will be run over by orks*
 
Hahahaha you mean since we are gonna buy a 4.5th gen fighter the US is gonna offer them a 5th gen fighter for a cheaper price??....Wow Pakistan is respected by all the countries in the world ...they gonna sell them real good quality weapons but for our cheap army we are gonna get cheap weapons for a higher price...damn lifes a b***h. We are "SCREWED"

Well I cant comment on what you get upto in your spare time friend, but as a principle, both the countries have been guilty of spending large sums on defence acquisitions at the expense of general development of the masses. The west has been complicit in this firstly in leaving behind festering sores in the form of undefined boundries and territory and the n generating wars in the region and selling arms to both the parties concerned. I have no doubt that this was done intentionally. We have followed on from the stupidity, mainly due to local vested interests in harbouring these irregularities and fighting 3 unnecessary wars, when it would have been a lot cheaper to have settled the dispute through negotiations.And the stupidity goes on without realizing the consequences of a war in the region being disasterous in the extreme.
Araz
 
What arms race...Two nations are different, both are misers when it comes to defense procurements.. both maintain force and hardware in lesser quantity than needed by their respective doctrine... Pakistan has shortage in aircrafts, helicopters, naval ships, India faces dropping sqdn strengths inf fighter jets, in arty pieces,, submarines, attack choppers. Especially India is low spender in comparison to its GDP, Unless you have a pentagon type establishment which can defer un-declared budgets for military devlopments, Pak cannot match India, and India cannot match china by the current rate of procurements
 

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