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The religion, in traditional times, rarely clashed with science.

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| COMMONSENSE KARMA | 5-minute read | 27-11-2015

HARI RAVIKUMAR

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previousarticle, I wrote how the meaning of science was much broader in the earlier days. Our ancient shastras covered several bodies of knowledge, not just restricted to what we call science today. That is possibly one of the reasons a conflict between science and religion hardly existed in ancient India.


Another reason for the harmonious existence of different systems of knowledge was the framework of the three epistemologies given in the Upanishads. Knowledge is said to be at three levels or three realms. The first is called adhibhuta - the knowledge that belongs to the material world, or what we call "facts". A large part of modern science will come under this heading. The knowledge of the characteristics of a material, evolution of a species, chemical reactions in the human brain, measurement of space and time - all these are parts of adhibhuta.

The second is called adhidaiva - the knowledge that belongs to the non-material sphere, such as emotions, ideas, and beliefs, or what we call "values". Religious faiths, human feelings, and theoretical ideas come under this heading. The emotional response to a work of art, belief in a god or a religious tenet, or an abstract idea conceived by the mind - all these are parts of adhidaiva. While it may be true that the physical manifestation of a human emotion is the chemical reaction in the human brain, the pure emotion aspect belongs to the second realm, or adhidaiva.

The third realm is called adhyatma - the knowledge that belongs to the self, such as personal experiences and insights. Inner awareness and consciousness come under this heading.

While adhibhuta works in the realm of matter (and is realised by experimentation and logic), adhidaiva works in the realm of human psyche (and is realised by faith and imagination), and adhyatma works in the realm of the self (and is realised by experience and wisdom). All these three realms are essential for living a complete human life. And each realm gives us a fresh layer of meaning.

Let me take a Bollywood example to illustrate the three layers of meaning. In the song "Main Hoon Don" (the one picturised on Shah Rukh Khan), we find the line -

Dushman jo mera ho, rehta nahi duniya mein

(One who becomes my enemy, doesn't remain in this world)

If we look at this line from a straightforward, adhibhuta perspective, then the meaning simply becomes that Don would physically kill his enemies, and hence they don't remain in this world. But what if we looked at it poetically? The adhidaiva perspective might give another meaning - Don would befriend his enemies so that they don't remain enemies anymore. Thus the enemies are destroyed because enmity is destroyed. Now, what if we looked at it philosophically? There is no "other" to become an enemy and it is a destruction of the fundamental duality that leads to the state of having no enemies because there is only "one".



Of course, the lyricist meant the line to apply solely to the material world, but with this framework, it becomes possible to interpret the same thing in different ways, appropriate to the occasion. This framework also helps in giving us an approach that is suitable to the text we read.

For example, if we are reading a text like Surya Siddhanta, an ancient treatise on astronomy, we will deal with it at a physical, material level. If we are reading a text like Natyashastra, an ancient treatise on drama, dance, and music, we will bring in the emotional and imaginative aspects in addition to the physical level. If we are reading one of the Puranas, we will totally keep out the physical level and enjoy it at the level of art. We might also bring in the aspect of consciousness, for the Puranas deal with philosophy at some level. However, if we are reading a purely philosophical text like Yoga Vasishta, we will deal with it wholly at the level of the self.

This framework can be extended not just to our reading but also to various activities we undertake in our daily lives. Some activities are merely at the level of adhibhuta, like taking care of the body or managing finances. Activities like prayer or engagement with an art form will be at the level of adhidaiva. And those activities that involve contemplation and meditation are at the level of adhyatma.

With the existence of these three epistemologies, Hinduism, in traditional times, rarely saw clashes between religion and science, art and science, religion and morals, art and ethics. They realised that truths can be at different levels, applicable to different realms. This is also why Hinduism can quite easily accept another religion or a new mode of thinking in science. Perhaps this is why a Hindu is naturally tolerant and magnanimous. It is a part of her DNA!




Are Hindus actually tolerant?
 
Hindus face and throw discrimination against one another. Nepalis are Hindu but they would not be showed the same respect from an upper caste Brahmin like Shukla. The caste divide of hindu religion is he root cause for intolerance.
 
Hindus face and throw discrimination against one another. Nepalis are Hindu but they would not be showed the same respect from an upper caste Brahmin like Shukla. The caste divide of hindu religion is he root cause for intolerance.

The caste divide is going away slowly and caste system will go away slowly but surely.
Weaker sections will be given privileges for the social upliftment.
 
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The caste divide is going away slowly and caste system go away slowly but surely.

Caste system is only a symptom. Nepalis are badly discriminated in major cities like Delhi where the choicest of racist abuse is thrown at them by other Hindus. The situation is no better for all the people from NE who are also called Neapli and many times derogatory names.

Where is the tolerance here?

The caste divide is not going away, it is still running strong.
 
Caste system is only a symptom. Nepalis are badly discriminated in major cities like Delhi where the choicest of racist abuse is thrown at them by other Hindus. The situation is no better for all the people from NE who are also called Neapli and many times derogatory names.

Where is the tolerance here?

The caste divide is not going away, it is still running strong.

Discrimination is there in all faiths they will not name it ... simple as that.

I am confident the caste practices will diminish and will eventually go away.
 
Hindus face and throw discrimination against one another. Nepalis are Hindu but they would not be showed the same respect from an upper caste Brahmin like Shukla. The caste divide of hindu religion is he root cause for intolerance.

Chalo thik hai hum kisiko jine ke right se to deprive nahi karte.

Caste system is only a symptom. Nepalis are badly discriminated in major cities like Delhi where the choicest of racist abuse is thrown at them by other Hindus. The situation is no better for all the people from NE who are also called Neapli and many times derogatory names.

Where is the tolerance here?

The caste divide is not going away, it is still running strong.

We love Nepalis. We show our concern at the time of eartquake. We helped them like nobody else. Nepalis are respected people in our society.
 
Discrimination is there in all faiths they will not name it ... simple as that.

The Arabs consider Muslims of South Asia as third class citizens because of Arab racism. It is different with Hindu religion, the lower castes by written order are destined to remain low. Even in mythology a man of Karna's stature was ridiculed and mocked by everybody because he was raised by a low caste family. Caste division is an integral part of hindu religion.

I am confident the caste practices will diminish and will eventually go away.

Maybe in 10,000 AD.

Chalo thik hai hum kisiko jine ke right se to deprive nahi karte.

Except for the dalits and lower caste hindus.
 
We love Nepalis. We show our concern at the time of eartquake. We helped them like nobody else. Nepalis are respected people in our society.

You love Nepalis that's why you address them as chowkidars? Who are you kidding?

And read about the blocade of Nepal.

Tolerant for those who are tolerant to us.
Rest can take a hike.

You will be the first one to piss in your pants if non-Hindu countries pass a decree against hindus.
 
The Arabs consider Muslims of South Asia as third class citizens because of Arab racism. It is different with Hindu religion, the lower castes by written order are destined to remain low. Even in mythology a man of Karna's stature was ridiculed and mocked by everybody because he was raised by a low caste family. Caste division is an integral part of hindu religion.



Maybe in 10,000 AD.



Except for the dalits and lower caste hindus.

You know zilch about Caste system. Rich, coming from a Pakistani.

You will be the first one to piss in your pants if non-Hindu countries pass a decree against hindus.

awww.. choo cute.. Why don't you ask your neighbourhood mullah uncle to pass one.
 
This is the reason why India will be a super power by 2030. The Hindu religion and culture which India follows is just so open to science. The centuries of Muslim & British rule have destroyed India's scientific progress. There is confidence India will return to the same glory as in the Vedic times. Elephant man plastic surgery, intergalactic space travel, futuristic laser and nuclear weapons and colonization are just a few of the progresses India could make under Modi.
 
The Arabs consider Muslims of South Asia as third class citizens because of Arab racism. It is different with Hindu religion, the lower castes by written order are destined to remain low. Even in mythology a man of Karna's stature was ridiculed and mocked by everybody because he was raised by a low caste family. Caste division is an integral part of hindu religion.



Maybe in 10,000 AD.



Except for the dalits and lower caste hindus.

yes Karna was mocked because he is from lower caste. What happened next?

Duryodhana made him the king of Anga Rajya.
 
This is the reason why India will be a super power by 2030. The Hindu religion and culture which India follows is just so open to science. The centuries of Muslim & British rule have destroyed India's scientific progress. There is confidence India will return to the same glory as in the Vedic times. Elephant man plastic surgery, intergalactic space travel, futuristic laser and nuclear weapons and colonization are just a few of the progresses India could make under Modi.
Reality check.. It's 2015, India reached Mars last year, and Pakistanis are still trying to reach India, 60 years on. Come back when you are able to design and manufacture a decent moped engine on your own.
 
You know zilch about Caste system. Rich, coming from a Pakistani.

And you a dalit like you knows more about caste system? LOL!!\

awww.. choo cute.. Why don't you ask your neighbourhood mullah uncle to pass one.

LOL!! Funny how you hindus suffer from short-term memory loss. Ghaznavi, Ghori, Taimur remember?

Duryodhana made him the king of Anga Rajya.

For his own greed and duryodhan is the villain of mahabharat as decreed by the heros. Duryodhan became a villain because he adopted a low caste as his friend. And what about ekelavya, what kingdom did he receive?
 
And you a dalit like you knows more about caste system? LOL!!\



LOL!! Funny how you hindus suffer from short-term memory loss. Ghaznavi, Ghori, Taimur remember?



For his own greed and duryodhan is the villain of mahabharat as decreed by the heros. Duryodhan became a villain because he adopted a low caste as his friend. And what about ekelavya, what kingdom did he receive?

You have no idea about mahabharata, the main aim of you to vent your frustration and insult people here, bye !
 

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