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Date Posted: 09-Nov-2009

Jane's Defence Weekly


Time to bite the bullet over under-fire ammo

The time has come to acknowledge the significant limitations of 5.56 mm ammunition in British and NATO service and consider alternative solutions, argue Anthony G Williams & Nicholas Drummond

NATO's 5.56 mm standard rifle and light machine gun cartridge is under fire, following extensive combat experience in Afghanistan. Despite being of American origin, it has always been a controversial choice in the US due to its small size and lack of power.

Now, a catalogue of complaints is building up from other users, notably British soldiers. These focus mainly on its poor long-range effectiveness, erratic lethality even at short range, a lack of suppressive effect and poor barrier penetration. The commander of German troops in Afghanistan has also complained about its lack of stopping ability and penetration.

What exactly are the problems with this cartridge, which was selected by NATO in 1980 to supplement the existing 7.62 mm round? The issue generating most complaints from the British Army is the lack of effective range. When the 5.56 mm cartridge was adopted, combat experience in previous wars had established that 90 per cent of all small-arms actions took place within 300 m.

Falling short

This is not the case in Afghanistan, where more than half of Taliban small-arms attacks on British patrols take place between 300 and 900 m, with rifles and light machine guns (LMGs) using the powerful old Russian 7.62 mm rimmed cartridge, equivalent to NATO's 7.62 mm.

This places a much higher premium on long-range performance than anyone expected.

Not surprisingly, the 5.56 mm quite literally falls short. First, it slows down more rapidly than the much heavier 7.62 mm NATO bullet, so the bullet's energy falls from 50 per cent of the 7.62 mm's at short range to 30 per cent at 1,000 m.

Secondly, it is more subject to wind drift, making it more difficult to hit targets at longer ranges. Finally, when it does hit, it is much less effective. The British L85A2 rifle has been found to be of little use beyond 300 m; the long barrel and higher velocity of the L86A2 Light Support Weapon extends this to perhaps 400 m, while the third gun normally carried by foot patrols, the short-barrelled L110 Minimi LMG (valued for its high volume of fire at short range), is regarded as a 200 m weapon. All of these are in 5.56 mm calibre.

Another problem is terminal effectiveness. Military ammunition cannot legally take advantage of expanding bullets used commercially for hunting, which can inflict devastating injuries. So military bullets, especially the small 5.56 mm, rely on a 'yawing effect' to maximise their effectiveness.

'Yawing' describes what happens when a pointed bullet enters a dense medium like a human body: it will usually become unstable (turning sideways) before travelling base-first through the target.

This 'bullet upset' greatly magnifies the size of a wound, making it more likely that the target will be rapidly incapacitated. However, the effect is unreliable.

If a 5.56 mm bullet yaws rapidly after impact it can inflict severe wounds; but if it fails to yaw before the bullet exits the body, the resulting small hole may only have a limited effect unless a vital organ is hit. Some soldiers have likened it to shooting needles.

Several 5.56 mm hits may then be necessary to neutralise an enemy; there have even been cases where enemy combatants have got back up after being shot several times. In these circumstances, the bigger the bullet, the better.

British soldiers who have combat experience of both 7.62 mm and 5.56 mm rifles are in no doubt that the 7.62 mm is far more reliably effective. US Army troops are in an even worse position since their standard rifle is now the 5.56 mm M4 Carbine, which has a short barrel that reduces bullet velocity and energy.

The third problem with 5.56 mm ammunition is its lack of suppressive effect: the ability to pin down an enemy until heavier fire support can be brought to bear.

Both experimental testing and practical combat experience have revealed that the small noise made by a supersonic 5.56 mm bullet passing by is much less effective than that from 7.62 mm.

Barrier penetration is another problem. The standard 5.56 mm bullet is not bad at penetrating thin armour because it has a hardened steel tip, but it has little momentum and so finds it much more difficult to plough through car doors and windscreens, mud walls or timber. Even when it does penetrate, it usually has little remaining energy. It is also more easily deflected by obstacles such as vegetation on its way to the target.

Taking action

What all of this boils down to is that the 5.56 mm cartridge is simply not big and powerful enough to fulfil the role thrust upon it of being the standard rifle and light machine gun round.

It is bad for morale when troops are unable to respond effectively with their rifles on half the occasions when they come under fire and bad for the budget when they have to resort to firing very effective but very expensive Javelin anti-tank guided missiles instead.

What can be done to solve these problems? Actions can be divided into three stages: immediate, medium term and long term. The British Army is already providing an immediate response by redeploying 7.62 mm L96 sniper rifles (made surplus by the arrival of the L115 .338 rifles) and 7.62 mm L7 general purpose machine guns (GPMGs) down to section level, carried by foot patrols. This is good, but not ideal; the manually loaded L96 is slow firing, the GPMG heavy. The UK Ministry of Defence has therefore instituted two medium-term programmes, one to produce a lightened version of the GPMG; the other to buy a quantity of a different, even lighter, 7.62 mm LMG, comparable with the Russian PKM used by the Taliban.

While this is the best that can be done for now, it does not provide a complete answer. It still leaves the majority of weapons at section level in 5.56 mm calibre, with the disadvantages remaining.

New developments

Some may argue that a wholesale return to the old 7.62 mm calibre would solve the problems, but that would bring disadvantages of its own. The ammunition is twice the weight of 5.56 mm and the recoil is much more severe, making rifles uncontrollable in automatic fire. The recoil also makes it more difficult to train recruits to shoot accurately.

A long-term solution may emerge from programmes in the UK, US and other NATO countries to develop the next generation of small arms. At present, it is assumed that the rifles and LMGs will probably retain the existing 5.56 mm ammunition alongside 7.62 mm weapons. However, this process provides a once-in-a-generation opportunity to rethink the whole question of the appropriate calibre of small arms ammunition.

What would be ideal would be a round that offered a longer effective range, more reliable terminal effectiveness, superior barrier penetration and better suppression than the 5.56 mm without incurring the heavy weight and recoil of 7.62 mm. There is clear evidence that this could be achieved.

Before the US 7.62 mm cartridge was adopted as the first NATO standard rifle and machine gun round in the early 1950s, there was considerable disagreement over the calibre. The British, Belgians and Canadians argued strongly for a 7 mm cartridge, which was significantly smaller and developed much less recoil than the 7.62 mm but had a long bullet, giving it excellent long-range performance.

The British government even formally adopted this ammunition along with the compact EM-2 rifle. However, this was abandoned in the face of US pressure. It is now obvious that the British were right and that the 7 mm would have been a far better rifle and machine gun cartridge than anything NATO has used since.

More recent developments in the US have produced cartridges that will deliver greater effectiveness than the 5.56 mm while still being compact enough to be used in modified 5.56 mm guns.

The first of these was the 6.8 mm Remington SPC, developed with US special forces to deliver much improved terminal effectiveness out to 300 m while being fired from short-barrelled carbines.

By all accounts it succeeds admirably, although its long-range performance falls well short of the 7.62 mm. An alternative approach has been used for the 6.5 mm Grendel; a slimmer but longer bullet provides excellent aerodynamics, enabling the small cartridge to match the energy delivered by the 7.62 mm at 1,000 m. The weight and recoil of both of these cartridges fall roughly midway between 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm.

New developments in lightweight ammunition design may help to reduce the weight penalty for any new military cartridge, even if it utilises a larger calibre.

The next generation

The most fundamental question concerning the next generation of weapons is whether we should be retaining two different calibres or replacing both with one general-purpose round, which would equip all troops with rifles effective at all combat ranges, as they had in the past.

Ballistic analyses suggest that it is possible to develop a cartridge with the performance to replace both 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm; something like the 7 mm EM-2 at the top end of the calibre range, the 6.5 mm Grendel at the bottom. This should be examined by the UK and other NATO nations as a priority before re-equipment decisions are made.

A more detailed study of these issues may be accessed at: www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/btb.pdf
 
I was in New York during 1970/1971. Many of my colleagues were Vietnam veterans. It was around that time M-16 was being inducted in the US Army. Nearly all of those that I knew preferred M-14 over M-16 and were at a loss to understand the rational of replacing an excellent M-14 rifle with the plastic toy M-16 which was prone to jamming and lacked the heavy punch.

In my opinion, military planners are too easily swayed by the arms manufacturers who must continuously come up with reasons to replace existing weaponry; regardless of the fact whether it is really needed or not. Else armament manufactures would go out of business. I am not arguing against change but it should not be for the sake of change only.
 


version of HK417 rifle with 12" / 30cm barrel, fitted with telescope sight with night vision adapter, folding bipod and a sound moderator (silencer)

Caliber: 7,62x51mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 905 - 985 mm with 406 mm barrel / 35.6" - 38.8" with 16" barrel
Barrel length: 305 mm / 12", 406 mm / 16" or 508 mm / 20"
Weight: 4.36 kg - 4.96 kg, depending on barrel length
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 10 or 20 rounds

HK417 assault rifle was recently developed by famous German arms-making company Heckler und Koch, as a "big brother" to the 5.56mm HK416 assault rifle. Information on this weapon first surfaced in 2005, on the wave of new interest for the 7.62mm NATO caliber military rifles. This interest came in from experience of international forces gained in Afghanistan and Iraq, where increased range and penetration of the 7.62mm NATO bullets was (and still is) quite useful. Several companies developed new or updated versions of 7.62mm weapons, with intent to sell to military, law enforcement
 
Pakistan is not a rich country and it can not afford at this time to change its assault rifle completely to a new caliber of 5.56 specially when doubts about the effectiveness of 5.56 have been raised due to the recent conflicts, a few days back was reading somewhere that troops in Afghanistan sometime had to fire 5 direct hits to bring down a talib. So now when change in caliber is being spoken of, going to 5.56 would be not a wise decision.

If cost effectiveness has to be looked into with minimum effect on operational capability, then the HK-417 is the best option. Reason being it has many variants with different barrel lengths making it into a useful weapon for CQ combat, as an assault rifle and also as a sniper rifle. One weapon working into different roles. Best cost effectiveness would be achieved as the firing mechanism for all variants same, only barrel length difference.
Other reason, as we have 7.62*51mm as our standard assault rifle round, HK-417 uses the same, we don't have to change the round, will keep the same ammo, which has great stopping power and is a deadly round. No infrastructure changing to be done for ammo, huge cost saving.
Another cost saving reason would be that HK-417 can also accommodate the magazine of G-3, so all the magazine of G-3 won't be going into waste and if HK-417 is adopted, cost of manufacturing millions of magazines would be saved too.

So the only cost incurred would be getting the technology to make the rifle minus magazines, which is off course not a big issue as we can slowly start manufacturing the new translucent polymer magazines.

Cost saving in replacement of ammo, infrastructure for ammo manufacturing, magazines cost saving, no problem on the operational capability of the PA, assault rifle with great stopping power and effectiveness.

In my opinion excellent option with respect to cost and effectiveness.

Heckler & Koch - Group Website

Modern Firearms - HK417 assault rifle

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http://www.defence.pk/forums/land-forces/9119-alternate-g-3-rifles-pakistan-army-2.html#post535143
 
Hi,

Here is how I look at it---the 5.56 was not designed to fight a war with the afghans in the mountains of afg---the taliban by choice may have chosen to fight the war from a dist of 300---900 mtrs realizing the lack of the effectiveness of the 5.56---and its kill range.

Anyhow---the american mindset was that it was pref. to wound the enemy---that would divert the soldiers from fighting to attending the wounded---looked good on the paper and in presentation but the fact remains that in war---when the troops are moving forward, they would not stop to help the wounded----the wounded would be taken care by the medics---.

The reasoning behind 300 mtrs is that a man sized target is barely within the sights at that distance w/o a scope---so the assumption grew that all combatants from either side would get within that distance to DUKE it out---incidently, the taliban didnot have any fixed headquarters where they could be informed by the enemy what were the rules of the game----.

Secondly---the 5.56 millitary doctrine didnot realize what would happen if the opponent is still 7.62 and terrain was so hostile that air support or artillery support may not be possible at all the time---technically the 7.62 opponent doesnot need to come within the kill range of the 5.56---this this discussion suddenly slip into one opponent having BVR and the other WVR----.

I believe that pak army is well set with the G 3's-----now let me get this clear----does the G 3 still have a wooden stock----or is it high impact plastic now---if wooden----then switching to plastic may reduce the weight for one and also increase accuracy as another plus---. Also the platic is stronger than the wooden stock and won't break---it keeps the rifle more accurate because as the wood gets older, it dries out and shrinks---.

If it was for my vote---G 3 still rules on the ground---let the spec forces have what they want---let's have a variant of AK 47 for the troops for higher altitudes.
 
I have to wonder who on earth they speak to?

Oh the 7.62 is too heavy.

It has to much recoil to control on semi and auto fire.

It has to much recoil to teach people how to shoot accuratley.

Bullshit.

How many of our fathers and grandfathers learned to shoot and fight with a good old 303?

The fast-operating Lee bolt-action and large magazine capacity enabled a well-trained rifleman to fire 20 to 30 aimed rounds a minute, making the Lee-Enfield the fastest military bolt-action rifle of the day. The current world record for aimed bolt-action fire was set in 1914 by a musketry instructor in the British Army—Sergeant Instructor Snoxall—who placed 38 rounds into a 12 inch wide target at 300 yards (270 m) in one minute.[9] Some straight-pull bolt-action rifles were thought faster, but lacked the simplicity, reliability, and generous magazine capacity of the Lee-Enfield. First World War accounts tell of British troops repelling German attackers who subsequently reported that they had encountered machine guns, when in fact it was simply a group of trained riflemen armed with SMLE Mk III rifles.

Does it kill what it hits and hit what you aim for then buy it.
Anything else you can get used to.
 
www.grosswildjagd.de/penetr2.htm


What a find---check out the penetration index of .308---then the .22 hornet---which the closest to 5.56 and then look at the .50 calibre----

the writer wrote it for big game hunting---a very interesting article and numerical chart


It is the HYDROSTATIC shock that kills you---the bigger the bore---the lethal the round
 
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You all happily talk of this round vs that round and this weapon vs some other.
BUT
you should also seriously consider both barrel length, muzzel velocity, effective range and final kinetic energy.
 
Hi,

Indeed you are correct that we are not getting into the realm of being more techinical----but the we are just basing this info on the standard nato round for 5.56--and .308---as the range grows farther than 300 yards---5.56 standard round begins to fizzle out compared to standard .308 which is still going strong.

So the basic comparison would be with a 55---60 grain bullet to 140---150 grain bullet with muzzle velocity of around 3250ft/sec as compared to 2850 ft/sec

Basically what it comes down to is that bigger the bore the stronger the hydrostatic shock of impact---.
 
Hi,

So the basic comparison would be with a 55---60 grain bullet to 140---150 grain bullet with muzzle velocity of around 3250ft/sec as compared to 2850 ft/sec

Basically what it comes down to is that bigger the bore the stronger the hydrostatic shock of impact---.

The grain issue reflects effective burning and is back related to barrel length. OK you can become technical and look at the grain design as well as that affects burning rate.

But effective barrel length plus effective grain = effective range.
Tucked in here is muzzle velocity but that will be more related to trajectory curve and kinetic energy, (your hydrostatic shock).

Have fun, no change will occur round size in the near future.
 

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