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And time is the critical factor. On the one hand we have western interests with a demand for near instant results and an aversion to anything that may be construed as 'colonialism', on the other the security and development of Afghanistan as a nation state will IMHO require generational change.

When you understand what the word 'semantics' means, come back and play.

I realize you want to move “beyond the semantics” of your claim but, as has been pointed out to you before, words have meaning. I was simply going to toss that comment off as another flippant reply but as we’ve had what I can describe as rational debates prior to this I...

In your rush to offer the usual dismissives you obviously missed these So, instead of offering the usual 'ad hominems' perhaps you can further define how 'abandoned' equates to a continuing and escalating presence? ;)

This from the person who claims continued military presence and aid means 'abandonment'. The narrative of the 'intelligensia', where everything is something else and all fault lies elsewhere. You rightly got called by S-2. The more you open your mouth, the more foolish you appear,so please...

Lordy:no:. Force and aid has constantly increased since the invasion. The myth that somehow 'those 100,000' would have been put in Afghanistan if not deployed to Iraq is simply that, a myth. "Gee, we've got 100,000 troops sitting round doing nothing, I know, lets put them in Afghanistan...

Oh rubbish. Sufficient force was put in place to keep order for what, three, four years? It was only when wholesale interference from across the border began occurring once more that the violence began increasing dramatically.

Showing commitment to stay is a biggie for sure. The other issue is one that evidently isn't going away any time soon: Kabul needs the same allocation of resources as the rest of the country per person and not a cent more. This should free up resources to provide to the local administrator...

Pretty much agree with the whole thing, although had a special irony considering what we've been up to in Bamyan since the invasion. A lot of it was pretty much what I was trying to sell Astralis on a while ago but which he didn't seem to have too much time for. Perhaps because I was using...

Sure, India's unending hostility toward Pakistan is the reason they nuked you after 1974: oh wait, they didn't...............

Have we met? :) Personally I tend to use the same name across boards as I like people to know who I am and what I think: Asim, Agnostic Muslim and S-2 do likewise. I can only speculate the reasons you do not....

If you want to raise strawmen that's up to you, I don't regard there being a time limit on calling them

While your comment is disingenuous on several levels I'll limit myself to the simple comment; that was then, this is now.... Pakistan: Divided by Faith Sure Asim, whatever you say;)

I'm sorry, obviously my natural reticence failed me in conveying the full measure of my contempt;)

No, I'd rather deal with rationalists than idiots:lol:

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As usual, you misrepresent the original quote to realign the argument in your own favour. To wit Like I said, why on earth would ABCA allow the destruction of their armies? And why on earth would you attempt to support this idiot?

Here's an idea though: since you're so convinced that the PA could do sooo much better at controlling Afghanistan, how about moving some of the PA off your southern borders, ally with the ISAF and set about hunting the Talibunies and AQ side by side with your western 'allies'. Close...