Why does India compare itself with China?

sbh02 · Jan 19, 2017

Why do Indians want to compare their nation to China, & equate Pakistan to Afghanistan, when by all socioeconomic, political, health, development measures etc, India & Pakistan are very similar; & India is nothing like Pakistan. Saying Pakistan is like Afghanistan is like saying India is like Afghanistan.

So just a few examples:

1) GDP per capita:

Pakistan------India-------China

$5100-------$6700-------$15400

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

2) Current account balance:

Pakistan------------India----------------China

$-2.627 billion----$-31.97 billion----$+270.9 billion

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html

3) Inflation:

Pakistan---------India----------China

3.70%------------5.60%----------2.30%

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2092rank.html

4) Unemployment:

Pakistan---------India----------China

6.70%-----------8.40%----------4.20%

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2129rank.html

5) Structure of economy (% of GDP by sector):

-----------Pakistan-----India-------China

agriculture: 25.2%---16.5%------8.6%
--industry: 19.2%------29.8%----40.7%
--services: 55.6%----45.4%----50.7%

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2012.html

6) Life expectancy at birth (years):

Pakistan-------India--------China

67.7----------68.5----------75.5

https://www.cia.gov/library/PUBLICATIONS/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

7) Education Index (expected & mean years of schooling):

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.37---------0.47----------0.61

http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/education-index

8) Income Inequality Index (higher number, more inequality):

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.296----------0.336---------0.469

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html

9) Multidimensional Poverty Index (Tables 3.1 to 4.3): higher number, more poverty:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.23----------0.283---------0.023

http://www.ophi.org.uk/multidimensional-poverty-index/global-mpi-2016/

10) Gender Inequality Index (higher number, more inequality):

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.536---------0.563--------0.191

http://chartsbin.com/view/4319

sbh02 · Jan 19, 2017

Hope we can have a civilised discussion here with our Indian members.

faithfulguy · Jan 19, 2017

sbh02 said:
Hope we can have a civilised discussion here with our Indian members.

Per capita wise and living standard, India is closer to Pakistan. In terms of military technology, India is closer to that of Pakistan. But because Indians were dominated by foreigners for a long time. They developed inferiority complex. This complex resulted in self grandeur and bragging. That is why many Indians try to compare to China in every turn and make proclamation that Indian is ahead of China. On the very,very few area that India is really ahead, India of course gloat all over but then also proclaim that they are ahead of US. For example, since India is the only other country besides USA that has a probe circling Mars, some Indians claims that India is ahead of US. If you think I'm making up this Bollywood crap, google it.

In sum, Indian inferiority complex cause them to compare only with countries that are way ahead of them, not equal to them. That is why Indians obsessively compare to China.

Ali Zadi · Jan 19, 2017

faithfulguy said:
Per capita wise and living standard,.....

Are you really from Taiwan? Non of my family members or neighbors or friends from Taiwan like China in the same zeal as you do besides that India looks at China just like Pakistan looks at India, its a good thing to aspire to be better I can see nothing wrong with it.

These figures are semi explained by China's manufacturing position anyhow

tanlixiang28776 · Jan 19, 2017

Comparisons on forums have 0 effect on ground realities of the two countries. The only thing that occurs is delusional people have circle jerks with other delusional people all they want but it doesn't change anything.

AnnoyingOrange · Jan 19, 2017

LOL...

schoolboy · Jan 19, 2017

Per capita ceases to be helpful when economies are of different scales. For that matter Nepal's per capita GDP is closer to Pakistan than India's - so should Pakistan be compared to Nepal?

And Lebanon ($8047) has a higher per capita GDP than China ($8027) - but I don't see China aspiring to be the next Lebanon anytime soon. Or Barbados (which at $15,000 has almost double China's per capita GDP)

GDP (Nominal) of India and Pakistan was $2050 billion and $250 billion respectively in 2014 (about 8.2 times). On PPP basis, GDP of India and Pakistan is $7,376 billion and $882 billion respectively. In 2014-15 India was 9th largest of the world in nominal method and 3rd largest economy in ppp method. Nominal ranking of Pakistan is 43 and PPP ranking is 26.

GDP of China is 5.06 and 2.39 times more than India at nominal and ppp terms, respectively. China and India were 2nd and 9th largest countries of the world, respectively in nominal basis. On PPP basis, China is at 1st and India is at 3rd place in 2014

[Source: IMF http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2015/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=60&pr.y=10&sy=1980&ey=2020&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=564,534&s=NGDP_RPCH,NGDPD,NGDPDPC,PPPGDP,PPPPC&grp=0&a=]

The challenges of managing a large country are very different from managing a small country. Similarly challenges of managing a more populous country is different. Pakistan's GDP growth rate is less (especially since 2008) despite a smaller base.

Unlike faithfulguy's post above I don't wish to make foolish statements and gaseous Trumplike claims but barring a few exceptions there is really no good case for aspiring to be like Pakistan in any field that I can think of - but I'm happy to debate this.

In any event, India aspires to be like China only in economic development. Nobody here wants to really follow their lead in any other field - nor is that wise.

sbh02 · Jan 19, 2017

schoolboy said:
Per capita ceases to be helpful when economies are of different scales. For that matter Nepal's per capita GDP is closer to Pakistan than India's - so should Pakistan be compared to Nepal?

And Lebanon ($8047) has a higher per capita GDP than China ($8027) - but I don't see China aspiring to be the next Lebanon anytime soon. Or Barbados (which at $15,000 has almost double China's per capita GDP)

GDP (Nominal) of India and Pakistan was $2050 billion and $250 billion respectively in 2014 (about 8.2 times). On PPP basis, GDP of India and Pakistan is $7,376 billion and $882 billion respectively. In 2014-15 India was 9th largest of the world in nominal method and 3rd largest economy in ppp method. Nominal ranking of Pakistan is 43 and PPP ranking is 26.

GDP of China is 5.06 and 2.39 times more than India at nominal and ppp terms, respectively. China and India were 2nd and 9th largest countries of the world, respectively in nominal basis. On PPP basis, China is at 1st and India is at 3rd place in 2014

[Source: IMF http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2015/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=60&pr.y=10&sy=1980&ey=2020&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=564,534&s=NGDP_RPCH,NGDPD,NGDPDPC,PPPGDP,PPPPC&grp=0&a=]

The challenges of managing a large country are very different from managing a small country. Similarly challenges of managing a more populous country is different. Pakistan's GDP growth rate is less (especially since 2008) despite a smaller base.

Unlike faithfulguy's post above I don't wish to make foolish statements and gaseous Trumplike claims but barring a few exceptions there is really no good case for aspiring to be like Pakistan in any field that I can think of - but I'm happy to debate this.

In any event, India aspires to be like China only in economic development. Nobody here wants to really follow their lead in any other field - nor is that wise.

It's not GDP per capita, but every other social and development factor.

Nepal is lagging behind in poverty and many other factors, you can't compare it to Pakistan.

Whereas in almost all factors, India and Pakistan are very similar, and very different from India.

Brickwall · Jan 19, 2017

In fact Chinese should appreciate , that India compares with China. Comparison allows us to set the focus on achieving greater things.

Needless brikering on PDF , Indians respect and want to emulate China growth and prosperity.

Srinivas · Jan 19, 2017

sbh02 said:
Hope we can have a civilised discussion here with our Indian members.

why you put pakistan in there along with India and China?

why are you comparing India and pakistan?

Glorino · Jan 19, 2017

While the Press in India makes comparison or highlights differences between India and China- my impression is that India should compare itself with other democratic countries like USA and Germany.....

Farbeyonddriven · Jan 19, 2017

Indians can squeeze out 10 litres of pee by drinking only 1 litre of water,that's the way in which they have been bragging for decades

ito · Jan 19, 2017

It is more the international media that compares India and China. I don't see much comparison happening in Indian media.

May be sizes of India and China are similar and both have high GDP growth rates are reasons why international media compares India wwith China

Farbeyonddriven · Jan 19, 2017

Here's the fact: our medias very rarely mention India,and so do international medias,it's only indian medias always bring China and India together on their meddlesome but ignored screens almost every single day.

And China and India are of similar sizes?? :omghaha:

If you think 9,596,961 km2 and 3,287,263 km2 are of similar sizes,China is 3 times bigger than India!

Sanchez · Jan 19, 2017

guy sach said:
In fact Chinese should appreciate , that India compares with China. Comparison allows us to set the focus on achieving greater things.

Needless brikering on PDF , Indians respect and want to emulate China growth and prosperity.

Chinese feel shameful if somebody compares Chinese achievements with Indian in the last 30 years or so！The Indian posters in the forum are often racists，big mouth idiots and hindu extremists.

We don’t appreciate such a comparison.

Ali Zadi said:
Are you really from Taiwan? Non of my family members or neighbors or friends from Taiwan like China in the same zeal as you do besides that India looks at China just like Pakistan looks at India, its a good thing to aspire to be better I can see nothing wrong with it.

These figures are semi explained by China's manufacturing position anyhow

So you are a Taidu！It‘s good that you are waving an Indian flag that your family might have a good chance to take a refuge there！We are fed up with Taiwanese who dislike China！

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