India 'incomplete' without Pakistan's Sindh: BJP patriarch LK Advani

The Eagle · Jan 16, 2017

Jugger said:
It was nice talking to you on this topic.

You are welcome. Have a nice time.

Jaanbaz · Jan 16, 2017

We are bound to see future Indian adventures against Pakistan, these views are not only his views but that of BJP, they are Hindu nationalists they do believe they need to get rid of all Muslims in South Asia through ''ghar wapsi'' and genocides, what you saw in Gujrat was a demo of Hindu anger and frustration. Now the Hindu nationalist armed with nuclear bomb is just as dangerous as any Mullah with a nuclear bomb.

Hindu nationalists believe they need revenge for Muslims conquest of India, I say why doesn't India invade Afghanistan, GCC, Central Asian Turkic countries and Iran since these are the nations which conquered India. Why does Hindu nationalism only works on unarmed Indian Muslims? :lol:

MilSpec · Jan 16, 2017

IceCold said:
When your PM mentions a non disputed territory in his independence celebration speech, how would you take it if not as admission of interference in sovereign countries affairs? May i ask you to stop playing with words to suit a certain flavor here and at the very least call spade a spade?

hehe, how about not interpreting and hearing exactly what he said. He did not say we support insurgents in Balochistan but mentioned human rights violation in Balochistan. Exactly like your dispensation has mentioned plight of rohingya's in burma, which wouldn't translate into Pakistan meddling in Burmese affairs, neither would Pakistan's concern towards south sudan issues would translate into Pakistan meddling in south sudan. It is exactly what it means, Indian PM expressing concerns about human rights in Balochistan.
I am astounded that this is so difficult to comprehend.

pak-marine · Jan 16, 2017

We have chutiyas on both side of the borders

bafxet · Jan 16, 2017

Pakistan incomplete without Delhi

imadul · Jan 16, 2017

Jugger said:
India is not complete without Pakistan and Pakistan is not complete without India, then why not join both countries in a secular union and call it the United south Asia. Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lankan etc can also join in this union if they like.

India and Pakistan could remain one country but 1937 elections proved that even Fed democracy could not safaguard rights of Muslims. Congress forced vandey mataram, Urdu was forced out and Muslims were ignored in all the minority provinces where congress formed its governments. Nehru announced there are two parties in india, Congress and British Govt, Quaid-Azam said, "No, Third party is Musalman and Muslim League ". Pakstan eventually came into being because Muslims refused to live as a second class citizen under hindu mmajority.

And, though i said, " Pakisan incomplete without India" in a light vein, but it is a true claim. Muslim will once again rule all over India. Only Muslims have the capability to rule justly. Could you imagine hindu acting in just manner amongt different people?

TMA · Jan 17, 2017

MilSpec said:
Try and comprehend the difference between personal opinion and national policy.

Hopefully it will become Bharat's national policy overtly. Modi and Co harbour such designs covertly.

Bhupendra Singh_Cyan · Jan 17, 2017

The Eagle said:
Too much of generalization and derailing but still, I will try to be short to cover all of above.

The comments were related to 1947 but as usual, you were too quick to jump at 71 and Bangladesh and further pieces but still, if this is the understanding of Two Theory to you then why to discount India for such movements as what if soon we see something like that happening in India as another Nation which can be happened.

Rest about your logic of Secularism etc, Pakistan is a Majority Muslim Country and Islam defines all those things pretty well so we don't need such fake equal treating system which itself is being hijacked by RSS and causing atrocities to minorities. The blame game can expand further but no need to so Secularism is not in good books for us at all hence, no reunion however, if situation became worse by looking at threatening statements etc, there will be a fight so to avoid that either we may work as be happy apart or be ready.... Separation and Pakistan creation was solely based and started due to discrimination with minorities and Muslim and the same was a one way road.

You think Pakistan came under influence but in other words actually, Pakistan was the reason to deny the influence and master slave relation hence all the struggle and sacrifices. Talking about Caste etc, Islam is a complete solution for Muslims so we don't need anything else however, to claim as such, you may try to make it perfect in India by treating every citizen equally without any difference and as a role model for other to follow but need to prove it first.

You said discrimination to Muslims by Hindus.
Okay accepted.

Now tell me what about the Muslim invaders who came to this subcontinent and killed Hindus.
So my friend, leave this shit and move on!
You won't get nothing after scratching old injuries be it yours or ours.
Just stay happy and live in peace.

imadul said:
India and Pakistan could remain one country but 1937 elections proved that even Fed democracy could not safaguard rights of Muslims. Congress forced vandey mataram, Urdu was forced out and Muslims were ignored in all the minority provinces where congress formed its governments. Nehru announced there are two parties in india, Congress and British Govt, Quaid-Azam said, "No, Third party is Musalman and Muslim League ". Pakstan eventually came into being because Muslims refused to live as a second class citizen under hindu mmajority.

And, though i said, " Pakisan incomplete without India" in a light vein, but it is a true claim. Muslim will once again rule all over India. Only Muslims have the capability to rule justly. Could you imagine hindu acting in just manner amongt different people?

And when mughals treated Hindus as second class citizens? Your country men who don't have any links with them enjoy this by saying we ruled 1000 years which they never did.
So stop this biased nature.
Khud ki galtiyaan dekhlo dusro par keechad faikne pehle :angel:

Samurai_assassin · Jan 17, 2017

He does not feel complete without Sindh. He should apply for a Pakistani visa and visit Sindh, Pakistan.

imadul · Jan 17, 2017

Bhupendra Singh_Cyan said:
You said discrimination to Muslims by Hindus.
Okay accepted.

Now tell me what about the Muslim invaders who came to this subcontinent and killed Hindus.
So my friend, leave this shit and move on!
You won't get nothing after scratching old injuries be it yours or ours.
Just stay happy and live in peace.

And when mughals treated Hindus as second class citizens? Your country men who don't have any links with them enjoy this by saying we ruled 1000 years which they never did.
So stop this biased nature.
Khud ki galtiyaan dekhlo dusro par keechad faikne pehle

To be accurate you should have said, Ghouris, the Slave Dynaty, Khiljis, Tughlaqs, and Mughals killed Hindus. The all may have acted to pursue personal likes and treated hindu majority unfairly, but no one can rule for that long about 800 years by total oppression. Hindus still remained majority in India and Christian remained majority in Spain where Muslims ruled for 800 years. So all talks of killing of hindus is concocted.

The Eagle · Jan 17, 2017

Bhupendra Singh_Cyan said:
You said discrimination to Muslims by Hindus.
Okay accepted.

Now tell me what about the Muslim invaders who came to this subcontinent and killed Hindus.
So my friend, leave this shit and move on!
You won't get nothing after scratching old injuries be it yours or ours.
Just stay happy and live in peace.

The way you quoted me and the type of words you used, first of all reply in the manner the way conversation is happening which actually is called ethics so the wounds scratching etc is started by you just now and these type of unethical approach really deserve a good beat firstly to understand respect. You were invaded and Hindus killed, even if accepted your words then what all those soormas were doing that being ruled for hundreds of year even then ruled by Goras so are you playing a victim card or accepting the cowardice.

Rather than flame baiting, would be enough to move aside without copy pasting and repeating the same story. Give it a rest. We are happy and I was having a conversation with the poster in my quote.

imadul · Jan 17, 2017

imadul said:
To be accurate you should have said, Ghouris, the Slave Dynaty, Khiljis, Tughlaqs, and Mughals killed Hindus. The all may have acted to pursue personal likes and treated hindu majority unfairly, but no one can rule for that long about 800 years by total oppression. Hindus still remained majority in India and Christian remained majority in Spain where Muslims ruled for 800 years. So all talks of killing of hindus is concocted.

It is possible muslim kings may have treated hindus unfairly in some cases, but in general they treated them fairly.

That Guy · Jan 17, 2017

MilSpec said:
Try and comprehend the difference between personal opinion and national policy.

Personal opinions can affect national policy. When a man runs for and becomes the leader of a country, he is literally saying that he's the best person to run the nation, and his ideas alone can bring about important change.

There is a difference between national policy and personal opinion, but it is naive to believe that personal opinion doesn't shape or influence national policy.

MilSpec · Jan 17, 2017

That Guy said:
Personal opinions can affect national policy. When a man runs for and becomes the leader of a country, he is literally saying that he's the best person to run the nation, and his ideas alone can bring about important change.

There is a difference between national policy and personal opinion, but it is naive to believe that personal opinion doesn't shape or influence national policy.

Personal opinions can affect national policy. When a man runs for and becomes the leader of a country, he is literally saying that he's the best person to run the nation, and his ideas alone can bring about important change. - In a theocracy, where there is no value for the constitution. Democracies work differently. The man in question has been long sidelined to a ceremonial advisory committee. That is if you are interested in understanding the relevance and ground reality of his statement. If you wan't to score brownie point then YAY!!! you win.

Jugger · Jan 17, 2017

Although your post is a clear flame bait, I would try to answer it.

imadul said:
Muslim will once again rule all over India

As India is secular republic, this is partially true. Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and all other minorities have equal rights in India, so in a way they all rule India.

imadul said:
Only Muslims have the capability to rule justly

Considering the situation in the middle east at present, your statement is completely wrong and contrary to the facts.

imadul said:
Could you imagine hindu acting in just manner amongt different people?

No, I cannot imagine overtly religious people of any religion ruling justly, as they will definitely give preferential treatment to their own kind.

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