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Muslim Punjabi Tribes and their origins

!eon said:
Then where does all the Arab and Turk invaders vanished ? And from where this religion Islam came ? Does they (Arabs and Turks) whispered something in ears of local Hindus and ran away back to Arabia and Central Asia ?

Chaining ancestry in Islam is one of the big crimes. I don't think anyone changes his/her ancestry in Pakistan. There are people who call themselves children of local bloodlines and feel no shame and there are others who claim foreign blood lines. There is no reason to negate them. If you are doubtful about yours, you can have some test, like DNA.

We do have Arab blood lines in Pushtun tribes, like KakaKhails and no one point fingers at their claims. There are Awans in my area, from South Waziristan up to Kalabagh and they claim foreign bloodlines and we never point fingers at them.
This pointing fingers culture is mostly in Punjab.
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I should have clarified I was referring to the Punjabi Muslim tribes. And no I never said the Arab or Turks vanished. But that line of reasoning can quite easily be contradicted by the example of the Norman invasion of England. In recent genetic testing, hardly any of the population of the U.K shows and "Norman" input, and if we go back and look at the Roman invasion, the same is concurred again. However, I won't go too much in to that as I don't think you actually want to discuss that.

Frankly I don't know enough about Pushtun tribes so I won't comment on them, as for Awans I come from that tribe. I have my own dna tested and I have also seen the results for a dozen others. There is nothing "arab" about their genetics, unless you count the paternal haplogroup which used alone doesn't prove "Arab" ancestry.

And people have changed ancestries in Pakistan and India, unless of course you are accepting that there are now more Syeds here than the rest of the world combined. I don't mind people claiming to be whatever they want, personally I just find it amusing when they can't back it up with anything concrete. I am not doubtful about my ancestry, already know where I come from.

It is just an academic discussion, no need to take it to heart, lad.
 
AshishDelhi said:
Gurjars or gujjars came to india before jats. They also had bigger kingdoms or influence as compared to jats before Islam came to India.
I don't know whether there is significant gujjar population in east Punjab. Gujjar community is present in Jammu Kashmir to Gujarat belt. There is significantly high population. In Rajasthan specially.
Gujjars are mostly herders with some land. They traditionally depend on animals/live stock but do farming also. Jats are farmers with some livestock more for personal consumption. May be for this reason in India, jats are concentrated in fertile plains. Gujjars are present in plains as well as hills of Jammu Kashmir himachal and not so fertile lands of Rajasthan Gujarat.
Socially jats and gurjars were considered similar but jats have progressed more recently.
In army, like I said last chief was jat, jats have good representation in army. sports - jats got few Olympic medals, many in Asian and Commonwealth, Sikh jatts have also done well. In education, Jats though still far behind let say baniyas but are ahead of gurjars. Jatts and Jats played key role in Indian green revolution/agricultural reforms.
Gurjars as a community are still dependent on animal herding mainly. They have not progressed much may be because of this. One, they resided in hills or desert areas. Jats in plains had advantage. Second, some of them are nomadic. As such, they are doing OK. Many are quite rich. But as a community they do not have strong influence like jats. Gujjars need some iconic figures in india. Rest I can tell more about jats..
Our education status-
Anpadh jat padha jaisa
Padha jat khuda jaisa

How other perceive us due to some what aggressive behavior.. JAT..Just Avoid Them

Jats and gujjars used to gel well...it is still fine but there is some competitiveness
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In East punjab the war of independence 1857 brought misery to most Gujjar villages for their overwhelming participation, their lands were taken away by British and Gov jobs banned. Gujjars were denigrated in their books as thievely and lazy. Even In my village west Punjab many were forced to falsify their caste as Rajput to get Gov jobs which even is seen today where two members of same family may write Raja and Gujjar as their Surname, in Pakistani Punjab however they have progressed very well.
Here is a long list of Gujjars in Pakistan ,which is unverified and may have mistakes just for info;
Great and Famous Gujjar
Islamic Scholars
  • Mian Muhammad Bux R.A Saif ul Malook
  • Khawaja Noor Muhmmad Muharvi
  • Ch Rahmat Ali Founder Pakistan National Movement & creator of word Pakistan
  • Movi Ghulam Rasool Punjabi Poet. Qissa Yousaf Zulikha
  • Mufti Muneeb ur rehman Chairman Pakistan Rowayat e Hilal Committee
  • Mufti Ismeal Gurganvi
  • Hafiz Muhammad Saeed President jamat ul dawa and Founder Falah Insaaniyat Foundation
  • Allama Liaqat Hussain QTV TV
  • Molana Qasim Nanatvi Deoband
Famous Gujjar Politicians, Bureaucrats and Social Workers
  • Dr Amjad Saqib Founder NGO Akhowat
  • Malik Sher Alam,Candidate for MPA PF-62, Mansehra
  • Mian Wali Ur Rehman Khattana (decesed),Sajjada Nasheen Ghaneela Shareef,Former MPA PF-43 Mansehra,Former President PML (N) Distt. Mansehra,
  • Mian Zia Ur Rehman,S/o Mian Wali ur Rehman,Sajjada Nasheen Ghaneela *Shareef,Former Nazim Union council satbani, Balakot, candidate for MPA
  • Sardar Muhammad Yousaf,Former Distt. Nazim Mansehra 2001 - 2009 Federal Minister 2013 to ..
  • Sardar Zahoor,Candidate for MPA PF-53, Mansehra since 1998
  • Sardar Waqar Ul Mulk Advocate, Candidate for MPA, Adovocate High Court Abbottabad
  • Choudhary Rahmat Ali, a Gujjar of Gorsi goth who coined the name of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, ex-MLA United Punjab, MPA West Pakistan, MNA Pakistan, Member District Council Sialkot. Given the title of Khan Sahib by British Government ==(Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Chaudhry Idrees Taj, S/O Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, Member Majlis-e-shora Pakistan,of shakargarh
  • Chaudhry Iftikhar Taj, S/o Chaudhry Abdul Rahim Ex. Vice Chairman District Council Narowal (Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Choudhary Rahmat Ali, a Gujjar of Gorsi goth who coined the name of Pakistan.
  • chaudhry Fazal elahi ex president of Pakistan
  • Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, ex-MLA United Punjab, MPA West Pakistan, MNA Pakistan, Member District Council Sialkot. Given the title of Khan Sahib by British Government ==(Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Chaudhry Idrees Taj, S/O Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, Member Majlis-e-shora Pakistan,of shakargarh
  • Chaudhry Iftikhar Taj, S/o Chaudhry Abdul Rahim Ex. Vice Chairman District Council Narowal (Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Chaudhry Ishfaq Taj, S/o Chaudhry Abdul Rahim Ex (MNA) (Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • A. K. Khalid, ex-Member Board of Revenue, Punjab (Tehsil Kharian, Distt Gujrat). Author of The Agrarian History of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Sardar Muhammad, late. ex- IG Punjab.
  • Sahibzada Ishaq Zafar ,Former President and caretaker Prime Minister of Azad Jammu&Kashmir and President of PPP AJ&K,remained Senior Minister, Speaker and opposition leader in AJ&K assembly.
  • Malik Fazal Din (Late)son of Malik Muhammad Suleman, famous businessman and zaminadar of Taxila, Pakistan. He has done extended work for gujjars especially the gujjars of Swat.
  • Chaudhry Amir Hussain, the current Speaker of[National Assembly of Pakistan].
  • Chaudhry Jaffar Iqbal Ex Deputy Speaker National Assembly of Pakistan son of Ch. Muhammad Iqbal.
  • Dr. Naseem Ahmed, Advisor to President of Pakistan for Science&Technology.
  • Chaudhry Anwar Aziz, Ex-(MNA) & Federal Minister of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Iqbal, Minister of health, Govt. of Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Iqbal of Chellianwala District Gujrat (Now Mandibahauddin) Pakistan, Ex. Chief of Gujjar community of Pakistan & Ex. Member of National Assembly of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Qamar Zaman Kaira (MNA), PPP Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Nadeem Asghar Kaira, 'Tehsil Nazim Kharian', District Gujrat, Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Daniyal Aziz (MNA), current Chairman National Reconstruction Bureau (NRB), S/o Chaudhry Anwar Aziz & an American Lady. PML Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Fazal Ilahi Chaudhry the Former President of Pakistan.
  • Ch.Muhammad Babar Hameed Gorsi a well known young Politician in Islamabad. Basically from Morli a well known village in Tehsil Shahkar Garh District Narowal.
  • Nawabzadeh Gazanfar Gul, Member of central executive committee PPP PAKISTAN.
  • Chaudhry Shair Muhammad gujjar,s/o Chaudhry Elam Din gujjar,tehsil Shakargarh,district narowal,sab cast khattana,a famous politician of Shakargarh,and former leader of khattana tribe,died on 6 June 1993.
  • Dr. Faqeer Anjum, Director General National Institute of Food Science & Technology University of Agriculture Faisalabad.
  • Chaudhry Akram Gujjar, MPA Lahore.
  • Choudhry Mohammad Ramzan, D.I.G [Late].
  • Choudary Abul Sattar Vario (from Sialkot) ex-Federal Minister.
  • Choudary Akhtar Ali Vario (from Sialkot) ex-MNA.
  • Choudary Khush Akhtar Subhani (from Sialkot) MPA (Punjab).
  • Choudary Armghan Subhani from Sialkot (Punjab minister).
  • Choudary Qurban Ali Chohan from Vehari, ex-MPA & MNA PPP,ex-District President PPP
  • Chaudhry Khalid Mahmood Chohan MPA S/O Ch Qurban Ali Chohan from Vehari
  • Chaudry Aftab Ahmad Gujjar, landlord, politician,transporter from Chak 3 NB Tehsil Bahalwal District Sargodha,Senior Advocate of Supreme Court of Pakistan & chief exucutive of High Court Bar Rawalpindi.
  • Chaudhry Jaffar Iqbal S/O Ch Iqbal Chellianwala, EX-Speaker of National Assembly, Ex-MNA,Land Lord District Raham Yar Khan Pakistan
  • Chaudhry Feroz Din Khaleeq, Tehsil Nazim of Samundri Faisalabad, Ex-President of Lawyer association of Samundri Civil courts, Land Lord, Social Worker, Author of two poetry books "Tera Sehar Mein and Chand Si Chahyra" from Chak No 217 G.B Tehsil Samundri District Faisalabad Pakistan
  • Chaudry Alyas Ahmad Gujjar, famous tranporter, politician and landlord from Tehsil Bhalwal dist Sargodha Punjab Pakistan.
  • Chauhdry Ahmad Mukhtar, Chack No. 165 GB Faisalabad, Pakistan, CSS officer, posted in Pakistan Embassy Switzerland.
  • Chaudhary Masood Ahmad, from Bhadana goth, former Chairman, Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited, Currently President, Anjuman Markazia Gujjaran, Pakistan (Registered)(a Nation-Wide active Non-Profit, Non-Governmental Organisation established in 1950 for the welfare of the Gujjar Community in Pakistan)
  • Chaudhry Khalid Asghar Ghurral S/O Asghar Ali Ghurral, Member of Provincial Assembly Punjab and Parlimany Secertary of Sports.
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia,from Burewala District Vehari,Retd.Senior Headmaster Govt.High School Burewala,Ex Director UNO's Project of Education Extension, a well known educationist & social personality of area, working for welfare of Gujjar community.
  • Professor Chaudhry Mazher Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia,General Secretary Gujjar Youth Forum Burewala,General Secretary Ittehad-e-Asatza Pakistan,Department of English Government College Burewala
  • Engr. Chaudhry Azher Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, a professional Textile Engineer, working as Technical Manager,Mayfair Limited Lahore
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Muneeb Gujjar Advocate S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, Advocate Civil courts Burewala District Vehari
  • Chaudhry Zubair Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, M.Phil University of Education Lahore
  • Dr. Chaudhry Umair Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, a well known personality of UAF, Vetrinary Doctor, University of Agriculture Faisalabd
  • Chaudhry Mubashir Hassan, Brother in Law of Ch Khalid Asghar Ghurral (MPA ), Former General Secertary of PVC Pipe Association Gujrat, Franchisee of Mobilink and Warid
  • Chaudhry Farrukh Shahzad S/O Arshad Mehmood, Manager of Warid Franchise Kharian and Gujrat, have the experience of Mobilink also
  • Chaudhry Ilyas Ahmad Gujjar MPA, Qasur
  • Chaudhry Azher Nadim MPA from Gojra District Toba tek Singh
  • Chaudhry Khalid Nabi Gujjar MPA from Sammundri
  • Chaudhry Sajjad Haider Gujjar MPA from Sheikhupura
  • Chaudhry Javed Hassan Daad Gujjar MPA, Rahimyar Khan
  • Chaudhry Shahbaz Gujjar MNA Samundri 2013
  • Ch Ijaz Gujjar MNA Mandi Bahaodin 2013
  • Ch Imran Mehdi Gujjar MPA Silawanli 2013
  • Ch Gulzar Gujjar MPA Raiwind 2013
  • Ch Khalid Gujjar MPA Candidate PTI 2013
  • Ch Imran Yousaf Gujjar MPA Candidate PTI 2013
  • Engr Iftikhar Ch Dupty Information Secretary PTI
  • Shafqat Mehmood Gujjar MNA Lahore PTI 2013
  • Ismeal Gujjar MPA & Minister Balochistan 2008
  • Chaudhry Asghar Ali Gujjar MPA, Leyyah, Parliamentary Leader MMA
  • Chaudhry Raja Khan (late) was well known as (baba raja)of KOTHA GUJJRAN TEH-KHARIAN, member of district council GUJRAT.
  • Chaudhry Rahmat Khan (late), NUMBERDAR S/O Ch-Raja Khan of kotha gujjran
  • Choudhry Ghulam Ahmed Zamurrad Yaqub (Tehsil Nazim Jhelum) Of Bala Gujjaran Gt Road Jhelum
  • Shaibzada Ishaq Zafar (late) ex opposition leader of AJK assembly and president of Pakistan PPP AZAD JAMMU AND kASHMIR
  • Chaudhry Latif Akbar, ex-minister of AJK Assembly and General Secretary PPP
  • Chaudhry Mohammed Aziz, ex-education minister and now MLA AJK Assembly
  • Chaudhry Mohammad Rafiq Neair ex-Minister of Heath Government of AJK
  • Chaudhry Rukhsar Ahmad MLA AJK
  • Chaudhry Mohammad Ismail MLA AJK
  • Chaudhry Noor Alam (Late) Ex-minister of transport Government of AJK
  • Chaudhry Mohammad Rasheed MLA AJK
  • Chaudhry Jaffar Iqbal, A well educated and well known figure of Dinga (Gujrat). He have done his Masters in Political Sc. and is an old formanite. Served as senior roles in Islami Jamiet-e-Talaba, and now active figure in Politics of Gujrat district.
  • CH M SARWAR GUJJAR S/O CH MUHAMMAD ALI GUJJAR,...A well known and active figure in politician of vehari Disst.
  • Chaudry Rehmat Khan Theekrya (Late) was popularly Known as (BABA GUJJAR) OF chak no 3NB TEH Bhalwal Dist Sargodha,was a big landlord,polition & social worker.
  • LATE Prof .Dr. Muhummad Sardar Alam Sarwar, Monan ,S/o Ch.Atta Muhummad Gujjar, Prof of Pediatrics, Quaid e Azam Medical College, Bahawalpur,Punjab,Pkistan. Originally from 370 JB ,Gojra ,Distt.Toba Tek Singh.
  • Haseeb Alam, S/o Prof.Dr.Sardar Alam Sarwar,Pharmacist,Bahawalpur.
  • Dr. Sajjad Alam,S/0 Dr.Sardar Alam Sarwar,Child specialist,Bahawalpur
  • Dr.Mohsin Alam,s/0 Dr. Sardar Alam Sarwar, General Surgeon,FRCS, FCPS, Currently working in Edinburgh ,Scotland.
  • Sohail Alam Gujjar,S/O Dr.Sardar Alam Sarwar ,Expoter of woven Apparel,Lahore.
  • Dr. Muhammad Luqman Ali, Prof.Of Medicine, Quaid eAzam Medical College, Bahawalpur.
  • Dr. Abdur Rehman (Sahiwal) PhD. University of Leeds. UK.
  • Dr. Hadiyat Rasool Phd Agricultural University Faisalabad.
  • Capt. Ali Chauhdry, Advisor to the members of the Saudi Royal family.
  • Dr. Mazhar Mahmood,S/O Chaudhary Abdul Ghafoor( Kotha Gorsian,Jhelum),Specialist Anaesthetist,FANZCA, FCA(SA),DA(SA)currently in Private Practice in Rockhampton,Australia.
  • Sajjad Haider Karim Gujjar Member European Parliament 3rd time and ex candidate for president European Parliament
  • Karam Hussain Gujjar President Liberal Democrats Dewsbury UK
  • Ch Safdar Barnali Anchor takbeer Tv Paris
  • Ch Shahid latif Gujjar Barcelona social Worker
  • Ch Maqsood Gujjar General Secretary Supreme Court Bar 2014.
  • Ch Saleem Ladhi General Secretary Punjab Bar Council 2014
  • Ch Hanif Gujjar Advocate General Punjab 2014
  • Ch Abdul Hameed (R) Director LDA administration
  • Sajjad Mehmood Chohan Gujjar DCO Sahiwal 2014
  • Engr Azhar Gujjar Companies Registrar Lahore
  • Ch Rizwan Gujjar EDO Finance & Planning Okara
  • Ch Mubarak Ali Gujjar Joint Secretary Interior Ministry Punjab
  • Ch Rasheed Ahmad Gujjar Chairman PEMRA
  • Ch Ashraf Adv MNA Candidate 2013, Executive Member PEMRA, Ex President Islamabad High Court Bar
  • Ch Zaka Ashraf Gujjar Ex Chairman PCB, Ex President Zari Tariqati Bank
  • Ch Riaz Gujjar Chairman PIMS Staff Union
  • Ch Qamar Zaman Chairman NAB 2014
  • Ch Aslam Gujjar President Lahore Education Board Ettihad Group
  • Ch Mohsin Gujjar Chairman Employees Union WASA Lahore 2014
  • Ch Tariq Ayoub Gujjar Chairman Privatization Board Punjab 2014
  • Ch Muzammal Perviz Gujjar General Director AIOU 2014
  • Sardar Tariq Gujjar ex GM Wapda
  • Sardar Fakhar Alam ex Chief Justice High court Peshawer
  • Sohail Arshad Director Excise and Taxation Sargodha
  • Zahoor Hussain EDO Finance Rahim yar Khan
  • Arif Zia Special Magistrate Multan
  • Ch Muhmmad Usman Civil Judge Jehlam
  • Ch M Akram Tehsildar Gujranwala
  • Ch Mazhar Iqbal Tehsildar Wazirabad
  • Aftab Iqbal Tehsildar DG Khan
  • Ijaz Ahmad Additional Secretary Finance & Welfare Lahore
  • Ijaz Ch Federal Secretary inter provinces Isd
  • Ch Irfan Mehmood United Nations (UN) as Administrative Specialist. Being international staff of UN, currently posted in Afghanistan
  • Prof Jamil Khatna Kotali
  • Ch Nazim Gujjar Dupty Administrative Kotily AJK
  • Ch Mehmood Alam Director Excise and Taxation Mirpur AJK
  • Pakistan Forces & Police..............Gujjar Pakistani Soldiers
  • There are several Gujjar who served in the different core of Pakistan Army. They are un-countable number of Gujjar sons and daughters who served in Pakistan Armed Forces but in this list only those will be mentioned who reached the ranks of Generals, Air Chief Marshall and other respective higher ranks,
  • Vice Chief of Army Staff General (R)Swar Khan
  • Major Muhmmad Tufail Shaheed Nishan e Haider
  • Major General Muzaffar-ud-Din, Governor of East Pakistan 1966 AD to 1968 AD.
  • Lt General (R)Sajjad Akram Ex Cor Commander Pakistan Army
  • Lt General Muzmal
  • Lt General Bilal Akbar DG Rangers Sindh 2015
  • Air Marshal Rahim Khan Commander in Chief Pakistan Air Force
  • Air Vice Marshal Asif Chauhan Additional Secretary Ministry of Defence Pakistan
  • Major General Muhammad Afzal Chaudhry (E & ME)
  • Flight Lt. Salman Mahmood Chaudhry (No. 27 Squadron Pakistan Air Force .. .....
  • Air Marshal (R)Arshad Ch ...............
  • Maj General(R) Javeed Iqbal ....
  • Maj General(R) Liaquat Ali
  • Maj General(R) Zia Ul Haq Noor ................
  • Maj General(R) Sardar M Khalid ...........
  • Maj General(R) Dr M Anwer ..........
  • Maj General Bilal Akbar DG Rangers Sindh 2014-2015
  • Lt Col Haroon Islam Shaheed
  • Brgd (R) Javid Iqbal
  • Major (R) Muhmmad Farooq
  • Air Vice Marshal( R) Sardar Asif .............
  • Air Vice Marshal( R) Shahzad Ch ..........
  • Air Vice Marshal( R) Saleem Arshad.........
  • Air Marshal( R) M.Yousaf
  • IG Punjab (R) Sardar Muhammad
  • IG Motorway (R) Ch Naseem
  • DIG Major Muhammad Ikraam
  • Ch Shabir Gujjar DSP
  • Ch Aslam SSP Karachi Shaheef
  • SSP Investigation (R) Hassan Ahsan Ladhi
  • Ch Fazal haq IG Punjab 1977
  • Ch Shafeeq Gujjar ex CCPO lahore
  • Ch Abdul Hameed Gujjar ex CCPO lahore
  • Cptn Sohail Gujjar Chief City Traffic Police Lahore
  • Malik Raab Nawaz DPO Noshahra
  • Muhammad Masood DSP Traffic Multan
  • Ch Riaz SP Quatta
  • Ch Farman Chohan ex DSP Quatta
  • Shahid Niaz DSP Circle Sadar Khaniwal
  • Ch Mudassar Iqbal Gojar Inspector UNO Mission
  • Ch Sultan Miran DSP Jehlam
  • DSP Distt Mardan Noor Jamaal Khan Khatana
Famous Gujjar Poet
  • Sahir Ludhanvi
  • Wris Ludhanvi
  • Hassan Din Hassan Gojri Poet

  • Famous Gujjar TV Anchor & Columnist
  • Javid Ch Express News
  • Aftab Iqbal Express News
  • Israr Kassana PTV
  • Osama Ghazi Dunya News
  • Dr Safdar Mehmood Jang News
Famous Gujjar Players



    • unbeatable Great Gamma (wrestler)
    • Shoaib Akhtar world's fastest bowler
    • Muhammad Asif (Bowler Pakistan Cricket)
    • Muhammad Ameen (Batsman Pakistan Cricket)
    • Mushtaq Ahmad Bowler Pakistan Cricket
    • Babar Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • Sajjad Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • Waqas Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • Mansha Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • M Ishfaq Gujjar (Shotakan Karate)
    • Rizwan Asif (Pakistan Football )
    • Olympian Naveed Alam (Pakistan Hockey)
    • Ehsan Adil Pakistan Cricket Team
    • Mir Nawaz gujjar Skiing Tamgha e imtiaz
    • Anwar Ali (Pakistan Cricet Team)
Model/Actor/Singer



    • Ch Jabbar Gujjar Filmstar
    • Ch Asif Gujjar Model/Actor Dubai
    • Naeem Hazarvi Singer
    • Akhtar Nawaz Gujjar Singer (Fuji Gujjar)
    • Qaisar Gujjar Model
    • Nawazish Gujjar Actor
 
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AshishDelhi said:
I know 3-4 migrations of my clan within india in last 700-800 years without any fight. And we started farming wherever we went. We should not assume that all migrations were related to war and invasions. I am a jat so interested in knowing how jats are in Pakistan.
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Then your ancestors are no Scythians, lol. Probably some native people that got some non-native genes "forced" into them. :D

Scythians were fierce warriors first and foremost. They would kill and cleanse the land of unwanted inhabitants even if the locals didn't put up a fight.
 
RazaGujjar said:
@AshishDelhi

There are plenty of Jatts on both sides of the Radcliffe line.

My question to you is, are there many Gujjars in east Punjab? And how are they comparable to Jatts?
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Just some lit search I made many years back. This one seems most solid and crux of it all. The names of sub castes of Gujjars correlate with surprising accuracy
Yuezhi-Chechi
Gusur-gorsi
Kushana-Kasana
Tochara- Thekaria

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...EIHTAB#v=onepage&q=subtribes of Yuezhi&f=true
 
Manidabest said:
Arain are sub caste of rajputs
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Lol... nope - the word rajput is... short of rajputra - in punjabi - rajay da putar - they are of Kshatriya descent. (not aryans - but scythians) suryavanshi, chandravanshi are not hindu (dharma or sanatana) rituals.

the word hindu is not a sanskrit term.

Manidabest said:
Mian, Chaudhry, Bhutta & Meher are common titles found among them
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Yeaah right... :omghaha: no offence :D

my guess is "Arain" is an aryan race - some converted from brahmins - some are of vaishyas and some are shudra.

most of the punjabi "sheikhs" are of shudra descent as well. mostly known as sheikh musali - no offence to 'em either.

we are all equals :D
 
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All I know is jatts are the sons of soil n they are not like Gujjars neither like arrains ... Rest in peace :laugh:
 
RazaGujjar said:
@AshishDelhi

There are plenty of Jatts on both sides of the Radcliffe line.

My question to you is, are there many Gujjars in east Punjab? And how are they comparable to Jatts?
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Surprisingly east punjab doesnt have many gujjars. Most sere muslims who migrated to pakistan. But there are hindu gujjars in haryana, rajasthan and western UP. The indian politician sachin pilot is a gujjar from rajasthan
 
paindobaba said:
Some of your content is not true,arhia is not in Syria it is near jeroshilum and now is in Palestine,arains were mostly Jews and nosturic Christian,they didn't came with Mohammed Bin Qasim , they migrated though Iran to India, more importantly they are not Aryan origin hence not truly a domestic stock, Bhutoos are also arain add them to in your list, jats and saamat are the original inhabitants of Indus valley civilization hence can be called true Indians or locals or arya- Indians ,rest are all settlers or immigrants,
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Jats are not from IVC. Jats along with Gujjars and Rajputs are most likely descendants of Central Asian migrators (Most Likely Scythians) . But most Pakistanis share the 'Harappan L' haplogroup, so most of us have blood of IVC people.

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This is also interesting.
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Butchcassidy said:
Surprisingly east punjab doesnt have many gujjars. Most sere muslims who migrated to pakistan. But there are hindu gujjars in haryana, rajasthan and western UP. The indian politician sachin pilot is a gujjar from rajasthan
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Gujjars, Rajputs and Jatts are thought to have come from Rajasthan.

There was most likely an event which a mass migration (drought or famine). Rajputs mostly migrated to Sindh (explained by a sudden emergency of Sindhi Rajput Dynasties), Gujjars and Jatts (who were most likely one group) migrated further North into the fertile Punjab (Jat) and Kashmir(Gujjar).

Many stayed of course, hence why there are traces in India; except for Rajputs which still have a strong presence.

Rajputs, Gujjars and Jats are related and were probably descendants of the famed Indo-Scythians.

Kaka420 said:
Lol... nope - the word rajput is... short of rajputra - in punjabi - rajay da putar - they are of Kshatriya descent. (not aryans - but scythians) suryavanshi, chandravanshi are not hindu (dharma or sanatana) rituals.

the word hindu is not a sanskrit term.



Yeaah right... :omghaha: no offence :D

my guess is "Arain" is an aryan race - some converted from brahmins - some are of vaishyas and some are shudra.

most of the punjabi "sheikhs" are of shudra descent as well. mostly known as sheikh musali - no offence to 'em either.

we are all equals :D
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There are two groups of Sheiks one mostly come from Brahmins as the title was commonly used by Brahmin converts to signify their status the other one are descendants of technocrats, bureaucrats, soldiers, traders, scientists, architects, teachers, theologians and sufis from all around the Islamic World that migrated to the Islamic Kingdoms in South Asia and settled there permanently.
 
Talwar e Pakistan said:
There are two groups of Sheiks one mostly come from Brahmins as the title was commonly used by Brahmin converts to signify their status the other one are descendants of technocrats, bureaucrats, soldiers, traders, scientists, architects, teachers, theologians and sufis from all around the Islamic World that migrated to the Islamic Kingdoms in South Asia and settled there permanently.
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im not denying that either :)
 
Manidabest said:
I gins.

Kambojahs are there closest cousins in this regard but again i dont know any kaamboj so i dont know their habits.

:)
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Hi,

Kambohs are of persian ancestory---. When the last king of their dynasty was overthrown in persia---they migrated towards afghanistan---then into present pakistan and present day india---mostly in the upper states.
 
MastanKhan said:
Hi,

Kambohs are of persian ancestory---. When the last king of their dynasty was overthrown in persia---they migrated towards afghanistan---then into present pakistan and present day india---mostly in the upper states.
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I have always wondered, do the Kambohs have any links to the Kambojas of the Iron Age?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kambojas
 
sady said:
In East punjab the war of independence 1857 brought misery to most Gujjar villages for their overwhelming participation, their lands were taken away by British and Gov jobs banned. Gujjars were denigrated in their books as thievely and lazy. Even In my village west Punjab many were forced to falsify their caste as Rajput to get Gov jobs which even is seen today where two members of same family may write Raja and Gujjar as their Surname, in Pakistani Punjab however they have progressed very well.
Here is a long list of Gujjars in Pakistan ,which is unverified and may have mistakes just for info;
Great and Famous Gujjar
Islamic Scholars
  • Mian Muhammad Bux R.A Saif ul Malook
  • Khawaja Noor Muhmmad Muharvi
  • Ch Rahmat Ali Founder Pakistan National Movement & creator of word Pakistan
  • Movi Ghulam Rasool Punjabi Poet. Qissa Yousaf Zulikha
  • Mufti Muneeb ur rehman Chairman Pakistan Rowayat e Hilal Committee
  • Mufti Ismeal Gurganvi
  • Hafiz Muhammad Saeed President jamat ul dawa and Founder Falah Insaaniyat Foundation
  • Allama Liaqat Hussain QTV TV
  • Molana Qasim Nanatvi Deoband
Famous Gujjar Politicians, Bureaucrats and Social Workers
  • Dr Amjad Saqib Founder NGO Akhowat
  • Malik Sher Alam,Candidate for MPA PF-62, Mansehra
  • Mian Wali Ur Rehman Khattana (decesed),Sajjada Nasheen Ghaneela Shareef,Former MPA PF-43 Mansehra,Former President PML (N) Distt. Mansehra,
  • Mian Zia Ur Rehman,S/o Mian Wali ur Rehman,Sajjada Nasheen Ghaneela *Shareef,Former Nazim Union council satbani, Balakot, candidate for MPA
  • Sardar Muhammad Yousaf,Former Distt. Nazim Mansehra 2001 - 2009 Federal Minister 2013 to ..
  • Sardar Zahoor,Candidate for MPA PF-53, Mansehra since 1998
  • Sardar Waqar Ul Mulk Advocate, Candidate for MPA, Adovocate High Court Abbottabad
  • Choudhary Rahmat Ali, a Gujjar of Gorsi goth who coined the name of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, ex-MLA United Punjab, MPA West Pakistan, MNA Pakistan, Member District Council Sialkot. Given the title of Khan Sahib by British Government ==(Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Chaudhry Idrees Taj, S/O Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, Member Majlis-e-shora Pakistan,of shakargarh
  • Chaudhry Iftikhar Taj, S/o Chaudhry Abdul Rahim Ex. Vice Chairman District Council Narowal (Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Choudhary Rahmat Ali, a Gujjar of Gorsi goth who coined the name of Pakistan.
  • chaudhry Fazal elahi ex president of Pakistan
  • Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, ex-MLA United Punjab, MPA West Pakistan, MNA Pakistan, Member District Council Sialkot. Given the title of Khan Sahib by British Government ==(Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Chaudhry Idrees Taj, S/O Chaudhry Abdul Rahim, Member Majlis-e-shora Pakistan,of shakargarh
  • Chaudhry Iftikhar Taj, S/o Chaudhry Abdul Rahim Ex. Vice Chairman District Council Narowal (Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • Chaudhry Ishfaq Taj, S/o Chaudhry Abdul Rahim Ex (MNA) (Shakargarh District Narowal)
  • A. K. Khalid, ex-Member Board of Revenue, Punjab (Tehsil Kharian, Distt Gujrat). Author of The Agrarian History of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Sardar Muhammad, late. ex- IG Punjab.
  • Sahibzada Ishaq Zafar ,Former President and caretaker Prime Minister of Azad Jammu&Kashmir and President of PPP AJ&K,remained Senior Minister, Speaker and opposition leader in AJ&K assembly.
  • Malik Fazal Din (Late)son of Malik Muhammad Suleman, famous businessman and zaminadar of Taxila, Pakistan. He has done extended work for gujjars especially the gujjars of Swat.
  • Chaudhry Amir Hussain, the current Speaker of[National Assembly of Pakistan].
  • Chaudhry Jaffar Iqbal Ex Deputy Speaker National Assembly of Pakistan son of Ch. Muhammad Iqbal.
  • Dr. Naseem Ahmed, Advisor to President of Pakistan for Science&Technology.
  • Chaudhry Anwar Aziz, Ex-(MNA) & Federal Minister of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Iqbal, Minister of health, Govt. of Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Iqbal of Chellianwala District Gujrat (Now Mandibahauddin) Pakistan, Ex. Chief of Gujjar community of Pakistan & Ex. Member of National Assembly of Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Qamar Zaman Kaira (MNA), PPP Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Chaudhry Nadeem Asghar Kaira, 'Tehsil Nazim Kharian', District Gujrat, Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Daniyal Aziz (MNA), current Chairman National Reconstruction Bureau (NRB), S/o Chaudhry Anwar Aziz & an American Lady. PML Punjab, Pakistan.
  • Fazal Ilahi Chaudhry the Former President of Pakistan.
  • Ch.Muhammad Babar Hameed Gorsi a well known young Politician in Islamabad. Basically from Morli a well known village in Tehsil Shahkar Garh District Narowal.
  • Nawabzadeh Gazanfar Gul, Member of central executive committee PPP PAKISTAN.
  • Chaudhry Shair Muhammad gujjar,s/o Chaudhry Elam Din gujjar,tehsil Shakargarh,district narowal,sab cast khattana,a famous politician of Shakargarh,and former leader of khattana tribe,died on 6 June 1993.
  • Dr. Faqeer Anjum, Director General National Institute of Food Science & Technology University of Agriculture Faisalabad.
  • Chaudhry Akram Gujjar, MPA Lahore.
  • Choudhry Mohammad Ramzan, D.I.G [Late].
  • Choudary Abul Sattar Vario (from Sialkot) ex-Federal Minister.
  • Choudary Akhtar Ali Vario (from Sialkot) ex-MNA.
  • Choudary Khush Akhtar Subhani (from Sialkot) MPA (Punjab).
  • Choudary Armghan Subhani from Sialkot (Punjab minister).
  • Choudary Qurban Ali Chohan from Vehari, ex-MPA & MNA PPP,ex-District President PPP
  • Chaudhry Khalid Mahmood Chohan MPA S/O Ch Qurban Ali Chohan from Vehari
  • Chaudry Aftab Ahmad Gujjar, landlord, politician,transporter from Chak 3 NB Tehsil Bahalwal District Sargodha,Senior Advocate of Supreme Court of Pakistan & chief exucutive of High Court Bar Rawalpindi.
  • Chaudhry Jaffar Iqbal S/O Ch Iqbal Chellianwala, EX-Speaker of National Assembly, Ex-MNA,Land Lord District Raham Yar Khan Pakistan
  • Chaudhry Feroz Din Khaleeq, Tehsil Nazim of Samundri Faisalabad, Ex-President of Lawyer association of Samundri Civil courts, Land Lord, Social Worker, Author of two poetry books "Tera Sehar Mein and Chand Si Chahyra" from Chak No 217 G.B Tehsil Samundri District Faisalabad Pakistan
  • Chaudry Alyas Ahmad Gujjar, famous tranporter, politician and landlord from Tehsil Bhalwal dist Sargodha Punjab Pakistan.
  • Chauhdry Ahmad Mukhtar, Chack No. 165 GB Faisalabad, Pakistan, CSS officer, posted in Pakistan Embassy Switzerland.
  • Chaudhary Masood Ahmad, from Bhadana goth, former Chairman, Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited, Currently President, Anjuman Markazia Gujjaran, Pakistan (Registered)(a Nation-Wide active Non-Profit, Non-Governmental Organisation established in 1950 for the welfare of the Gujjar Community in Pakistan)
  • Chaudhry Khalid Asghar Ghurral S/O Asghar Ali Ghurral, Member of Provincial Assembly Punjab and Parlimany Secertary of Sports.
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia,from Burewala District Vehari,Retd.Senior Headmaster Govt.High School Burewala,Ex Director UNO's Project of Education Extension, a well known educationist & social personality of area, working for welfare of Gujjar community.
  • Professor Chaudhry Mazher Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia,General Secretary Gujjar Youth Forum Burewala,General Secretary Ittehad-e-Asatza Pakistan,Department of English Government College Burewala
  • Engr. Chaudhry Azher Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, a professional Textile Engineer, working as Technical Manager,Mayfair Limited Lahore
  • Chaudhry Muhammad Muneeb Gujjar Advocate S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, Advocate Civil courts Burewala District Vehari
  • Chaudhry Zubair Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, M.Phil University of Education Lahore
  • Dr. Chaudhry Umair Hussain Gujjar S/O Ch Muhammad Hussain Gujjar,goth Bhatia, a well known personality of UAF, Vetrinary Doctor, University of Agriculture Faisalabd
  • Chaudhry Mubashir Hassan, Brother in Law of Ch Khalid Asghar Ghurral (MPA ), Former General Secertary of PVC Pipe Association Gujrat, Franchisee of Mobilink and Warid
  • Chaudhry Farrukh Shahzad S/O Arshad Mehmood, Manager of Warid Franchise Kharian and Gujrat, have the experience of Mobilink also
  • Chaudhry Ilyas Ahmad Gujjar MPA, Qasur
  • Chaudhry Azher Nadim MPA from Gojra District Toba tek Singh
  • Chaudhry Khalid Nabi Gujjar MPA from Sammundri
  • Chaudhry Sajjad Haider Gujjar MPA from Sheikhupura
  • Chaudhry Javed Hassan Daad Gujjar MPA, Rahimyar Khan
  • Chaudhry Shahbaz Gujjar MNA Samundri 2013
  • Ch Ijaz Gujjar MNA Mandi Bahaodin 2013
  • Ch Imran Mehdi Gujjar MPA Silawanli 2013
  • Ch Gulzar Gujjar MPA Raiwind 2013
  • Ch Khalid Gujjar MPA Candidate PTI 2013
  • Ch Imran Yousaf Gujjar MPA Candidate PTI 2013
  • Engr Iftikhar Ch Dupty Information Secretary PTI
  • Shafqat Mehmood Gujjar MNA Lahore PTI 2013
  • Ismeal Gujjar MPA & Minister Balochistan 2008
  • Chaudhry Asghar Ali Gujjar MPA, Leyyah, Parliamentary Leader MMA
  • Chaudhry Raja Khan (late) was well known as (baba raja)of KOTHA GUJJRAN TEH-KHARIAN, member of district council GUJRAT.
  • Chaudhry Rahmat Khan (late), NUMBERDAR S/O Ch-Raja Khan of kotha gujjran
  • Choudhry Ghulam Ahmed Zamurrad Yaqub (Tehsil Nazim Jhelum) Of Bala Gujjaran Gt Road Jhelum
  • Shaibzada Ishaq Zafar (late) ex opposition leader of AJK assembly and president of Pakistan PPP AZAD JAMMU AND kASHMIR
  • Chaudhry Latif Akbar, ex-minister of AJK Assembly and General Secretary PPP
  • Chaudhry Mohammed Aziz, ex-education minister and now MLA AJK Assembly
  • Chaudhry Mohammad Rafiq Neair ex-Minister of Heath Government of AJK
  • Chaudhry Rukhsar Ahmad MLA AJK
  • Chaudhry Mohammad Ismail MLA AJK
  • Chaudhry Noor Alam (Late) Ex-minister of transport Government of AJK
  • Chaudhry Mohammad Rasheed MLA AJK
  • Chaudhry Jaffar Iqbal, A well educated and well known figure of Dinga (Gujrat). He have done his Masters in Political Sc. and is an old formanite. Served as senior roles in Islami Jamiet-e-Talaba, and now active figure in Politics of Gujrat district.
  • CH M SARWAR GUJJAR S/O CH MUHAMMAD ALI GUJJAR,...A well known and active figure in politician of vehari Disst.
  • Chaudry Rehmat Khan Theekrya (Late) was popularly Known as (BABA GUJJAR) OF chak no 3NB TEH Bhalwal Dist Sargodha,was a big landlord,polition & social worker.
  • LATE Prof .Dr. Muhummad Sardar Alam Sarwar, Monan ,S/o Ch.Atta Muhummad Gujjar, Prof of Pediatrics, Quaid e Azam Medical College, Bahawalpur,Punjab,Pkistan. Originally from 370 JB ,Gojra ,Distt.Toba Tek Singh.
  • Haseeb Alam, S/o Prof.Dr.Sardar Alam Sarwar,Pharmacist,Bahawalpur.
  • Dr. Sajjad Alam,S/0 Dr.Sardar Alam Sarwar,Child specialist,Bahawalpur
  • Dr.Mohsin Alam,s/0 Dr. Sardar Alam Sarwar, General Surgeon,FRCS, FCPS, Currently working in Edinburgh ,Scotland.
  • Sohail Alam Gujjar,S/O Dr.Sardar Alam Sarwar ,Expoter of woven Apparel,Lahore.
  • Dr. Muhammad Luqman Ali, Prof.Of Medicine, Quaid eAzam Medical College, Bahawalpur.
  • Dr. Abdur Rehman (Sahiwal) PhD. University of Leeds. UK.
  • Dr. Hadiyat Rasool Phd Agricultural University Faisalabad.
  • Capt. Ali Chauhdry, Advisor to the members of the Saudi Royal family.
  • Dr. Mazhar Mahmood,S/O Chaudhary Abdul Ghafoor( Kotha Gorsian,Jhelum),Specialist Anaesthetist,FANZCA, FCA(SA),DA(SA)currently in Private Practice in Rockhampton,Australia.
  • Sajjad Haider Karim Gujjar Member European Parliament 3rd time and ex candidate for president European Parliament
  • Karam Hussain Gujjar President Liberal Democrats Dewsbury UK
  • Ch Safdar Barnali Anchor takbeer Tv Paris
  • Ch Shahid latif Gujjar Barcelona social Worker
  • Ch Maqsood Gujjar General Secretary Supreme Court Bar 2014.
  • Ch Saleem Ladhi General Secretary Punjab Bar Council 2014
  • Ch Hanif Gujjar Advocate General Punjab 2014
  • Ch Abdul Hameed (R) Director LDA administration
  • Sajjad Mehmood Chohan Gujjar DCO Sahiwal 2014
  • Engr Azhar Gujjar Companies Registrar Lahore
  • Ch Rizwan Gujjar EDO Finance & Planning Okara
  • Ch Mubarak Ali Gujjar Joint Secretary Interior Ministry Punjab
  • Ch Rasheed Ahmad Gujjar Chairman PEMRA
  • Ch Ashraf Adv MNA Candidate 2013, Executive Member PEMRA, Ex President Islamabad High Court Bar
  • Ch Zaka Ashraf Gujjar Ex Chairman PCB, Ex President Zari Tariqati Bank
  • Ch Riaz Gujjar Chairman PIMS Staff Union
  • Ch Qamar Zaman Chairman NAB 2014
  • Ch Aslam Gujjar President Lahore Education Board Ettihad Group
  • Ch Mohsin Gujjar Chairman Employees Union WASA Lahore 2014
  • Ch Tariq Ayoub Gujjar Chairman Privatization Board Punjab 2014
  • Ch Muzammal Perviz Gujjar General Director AIOU 2014
  • Sardar Tariq Gujjar ex GM Wapda
  • Sardar Fakhar Alam ex Chief Justice High court Peshawer
  • Sohail Arshad Director Excise and Taxation Sargodha
  • Zahoor Hussain EDO Finance Rahim yar Khan
  • Arif Zia Special Magistrate Multan
  • Ch Muhmmad Usman Civil Judge Jehlam
  • Ch M Akram Tehsildar Gujranwala
  • Ch Mazhar Iqbal Tehsildar Wazirabad
  • Aftab Iqbal Tehsildar DG Khan
  • Ijaz Ahmad Additional Secretary Finance & Welfare Lahore
  • Ijaz Ch Federal Secretary inter provinces Isd
  • Ch Irfan Mehmood United Nations (UN) as Administrative Specialist. Being international staff of UN, currently posted in Afghanistan
  • Prof Jamil Khatna Kotali
  • Ch Nazim Gujjar Dupty Administrative Kotily AJK
  • Ch Mehmood Alam Director Excise and Taxation Mirpur AJK
  • Pakistan Forces & Police..............Gujjar Pakistani Soldiers
  • There are several Gujjar who served in the different core of Pakistan Army. They are un-countable number of Gujjar sons and daughters who served in Pakistan Armed Forces but in this list only those will be mentioned who reached the ranks of Generals, Air Chief Marshall and other respective higher ranks,
  • Vice Chief of Army Staff General (R)Swar Khan
  • Major Muhmmad Tufail Shaheed Nishan e Haider
  • Major General Muzaffar-ud-Din, Governor of East Pakistan 1966 AD to 1968 AD.
  • Lt General (R)Sajjad Akram Ex Cor Commander Pakistan Army
  • Lt General Muzmal
  • Lt General Bilal Akbar DG Rangers Sindh 2015
  • Air Marshal Rahim Khan Commander in Chief Pakistan Air Force
  • Air Vice Marshal Asif Chauhan Additional Secretary Ministry of Defence Pakistan
  • Major General Muhammad Afzal Chaudhry (E & ME)
  • Flight Lt. Salman Mahmood Chaudhry (No. 27 Squadron Pakistan Air Force .. .....
  • Air Marshal (R)Arshad Ch ...............
  • Maj General(R) Javeed Iqbal ....
  • Maj General(R) Liaquat Ali
  • Maj General(R) Zia Ul Haq Noor ................
  • Maj General(R) Sardar M Khalid ...........
  • Maj General(R) Dr M Anwer ..........
  • Maj General Bilal Akbar DG Rangers Sindh 2014-2015
  • Lt Col Haroon Islam Shaheed
  • Brgd (R) Javid Iqbal
  • Major (R) Muhmmad Farooq
  • Air Vice Marshal( R) Sardar Asif .............
  • Air Vice Marshal( R) Shahzad Ch ..........
  • Air Vice Marshal( R) Saleem Arshad.........
  • Air Marshal( R) M.Yousaf
  • IG Punjab (R) Sardar Muhammad
  • IG Motorway (R) Ch Naseem
  • DIG Major Muhammad Ikraam
  • Ch Shabir Gujjar DSP
  • Ch Aslam SSP Karachi Shaheef
  • SSP Investigation (R) Hassan Ahsan Ladhi
  • Ch Fazal haq IG Punjab 1977
  • Ch Shafeeq Gujjar ex CCPO lahore
  • Ch Abdul Hameed Gujjar ex CCPO lahore
  • Cptn Sohail Gujjar Chief City Traffic Police Lahore
  • Malik Raab Nawaz DPO Noshahra
  • Muhammad Masood DSP Traffic Multan
  • Ch Riaz SP Quatta
  • Ch Farman Chohan ex DSP Quatta
  • Shahid Niaz DSP Circle Sadar Khaniwal
  • Ch Mudassar Iqbal Gojar Inspector UNO Mission
  • Ch Sultan Miran DSP Jehlam
  • DSP Distt Mardan Noor Jamaal Khan Khatana
Famous Gujjar Poet
  • Sahir Ludhanvi
  • Wris Ludhanvi
  • Hassan Din Hassan Gojri Poet

  • Famous Gujjar TV Anchor & Columnist
  • Javid Ch Express News
  • Aftab Iqbal Express News
  • Israr Kassana PTV
  • Osama Ghazi Dunya News
  • Dr Safdar Mehmood Jang News
Famous Gujjar Players



    • unbeatable Great Gamma (wrestler)
    • Shoaib Akhtar world's fastest bowler
    • Muhammad Asif (Bowler Pakistan Cricket)
    • Muhammad Ameen (Batsman Pakistan Cricket)
    • Mushtaq Ahmad Bowler Pakistan Cricket
    • Babar Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • Sajjad Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • Waqas Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • Mansha Gujjar (Pakistan Kabbadi)
    • M Ishfaq Gujjar (Shotakan Karate)
    • Rizwan Asif (Pakistan Football )
    • Olympian Naveed Alam (Pakistan Hockey)
    • Ehsan Adil Pakistan Cricket Team
    • Mir Nawaz gujjar Skiing Tamgha e imtiaz
    • Anwar Ali (Pakistan Cricet Team)
Model/Actor/Singer



    • Ch Jabbar Gujjar Filmstar
    • Ch Asif Gujjar Model/Actor Dubai
    • Naeem Hazarvi Singer
    • Akhtar Nawaz Gujjar Singer (Fuji Gujjar)
    • Qaisar Gujjar Model
    • Nawazish Gujjar Actor
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I don't think there is such a thing as sikh gujjar or maybe not many at all. Now days gujjars in east punjab are nomadic muslim gujjars who move there from IoK and are actually gojri speakers.

Gujjars exist among hindus but they are found in cow/hindi belt and are culturally different from punjabi gujjars. To me gujars are interesting people, they are found in northern areas as well who are till today semi-nomadic. Northen gujjars look different then ones in south AJK and Punjab. And hindi gujjars look different then punjab gujjars.
 

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