Turkey To Join Pakistan, China, Russia Superpower

Storm Force said:

TO THE THREAD STARTER.

Are you aware that Turkey and Russia are in a state of open hostilities.

That Turkey is about to become full fledged member of the EU. WITH freedom for turks to go and work in any EU state

Are you aware that Turkish feel European and part of Europe NOT Asia

Turkey is also commited to NATO especially due to threat from hostile unpredictable Russia.

Nothing wrong with trade agreements as for some anti nato bloc Thats just nonsense

You want anti West /Nato TRY NORTH KOREA or SYRIA

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Another EPIC indian FAIL. The incident of Turkey shooting down a Russian fighter jet last year, has now been resolved and full economic and diplomatic ties have been restored between the 2 nations.

Turkey is NOT about to join the EU. It will be at least 15 years before it does and that's if and only if Germany, Denmark and Austria remove there opposition to it. So it could be many decades or never before that happens.

Turkey is ALREADY working with Pakistan extensively in the field of economics, defence and industry. This relationship is growing and has the potential to become as strong as the one we have with China. The Islamic parties and Islam has a MASSIVE hold and sympathy all over Turkey. I know this because I was in Turkey last year and have visited there 5 times.

Even some Turkish politicians and generals have said before that Pakistan and Turkey are 2 seperate countries but 1 nation. This maybe because South Eastern Turks are racially related to Western region Pakistanis.

Your post and assumptions are as stupid and ridiculous as indian claims that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance or that CPEC would never be created.

PAKISTANFOREVER said:

This maybe because South Eastern Turks are racially related to Western region Pakistanis.

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Turks are racially related to Greeks Mediterrean people Syrians and Persians even some east Europeans.

That comment means nothing.

As for Turkish trade with Pakistan no big deal turkey trades far more with 20 other nations than Pakistan

BUT GOOD LOOK WITH YOUR NEW BLOCK

Storm Force said:

Turks are racially related to Greeks Mediterrean people Syrians and Persians even some east Europeans.

That comment means nothing.

As for Turkish trade with Pakistan no big deal turkey trades far more with 20 other nations than Pakistan

BUT GOOD LOOK WITH YOUR NEW BLOCK

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Most of the peoples of South Western Pakistan are racially Persian so the racial connections with Turkey is already there. It's the same as with the racial connection between indians in Bengal and those of bangladesh. Pakistan's relationship with Turkey is in it's embryonic stage with massive scope for growth which has already started.

PAKISTANFOREVER said:

Most of the peoples of South Western Pakistan are racially Persian so the racial connections with Turkey is already there. It's the same as with the racial connection between indians in Bengal and those of bangladesh. Pakistan's relationship with Turkey is in it's embryonic stage with massive scope for growth which has already started.

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THE BIGGEST ethnic race in Pakistan is Punjabi . around 60% which explains the love of indian music films food and language . Your Pakistani wedding play Bollywood songs

You Pakistanis don't understand a word of Persian or turlkish not a letter.

So surely you should have closer links to the Punjabis of india ie Sikhs the jat the hindu Punjabi khatris etc etc etc.

The arabs in DUBAI treat you Pakistanis so rough its Arabic racism

Storm Force said:

THE BIGGEST ethnic race in Pakistan is Punjabi . around 60% which explains the love of indian music films food and language . Your Pakistani wedding play Bollywood songs

You Pakistanis don't understand a word of Persian or turlkish not a letter.

So surely you should have closer links to the Punjabis of india ie Sikhs the jat the hindu Punjabi khatris etc etc etc.

The arabs in DUBAI treat you Pakistanis so rough its Arabic racism

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I never said anything about Arabs. Why did you mention them?

Punjabis make up between 55-60% of Pakistan. But at most 2.5% of india's population. So at least 97.5% of india has nothing in common with Pakistan whatsoever. Particularly in terms of race. The remainder 40-45% of Pakistan is racially related to the Persians/Turkic tribes. That's why they bare a startling resemblance to Iranian and Turkish people. We may not speak the same language as Turks but we share the same religion and a large portion of Pakistanis look like them.

By the way, the province of Balochistan is shared between Pakistan and Iran so a lot of Pakistanis in Balochistan speak Farsi/ Persian. Not many know this fact

Storm Force said:

THE BIGGEST ethnic race in Pakistan is Punjabi . around 60% which explains the love of indian music films food and language . Your Pakistani wedding play Bollywood songs

You Pakistanis don't understand a word of Persian or turlkish not a letter.

So surely you should have closer links to the Punjabis of india ie Sikhs the jat the hindu Punjabi khatris etc etc etc.

The arabs in DUBAI treat you Pakistanis so rough its Arabic racism

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Pakistan is multi ethnic and multi cultural. The only Iranic groups are Pushtuns and Baloch. Persian is the mother tongue of Hazara ethnic group of Balochistan, which is negligible. Hazaras of Balochistan and some small ethnic groups of Gilgit Baltistan are Turkic.
The biggest ethnic group is Punjabi (around 45-50% of Pakistan, since Saraeki are separate people and included in Punjab). This is followed by Pushtuns and then goes onward.
Urdu does share significant vocabulary with Persian and Turkish as Hindi shares with Sanskrit, both Hindi and Urdu were derived from Hindustani language and are different dialects of the same old language. Urdu is not the mother tongue of any ethnic group in Pakistan except the Urdu speaking muhajir community (considerably small segment of population) , rest have native languages as mother tongues. Urdu is a national language and language of communication between various ethnic groups, since it was identified with muslim separatism which developed in Central India.
The impact of Persian on local languages is there since it was the official language till 1840's in this region, when British abolished it, even Ranjit Singh's court's official language was Persian.

Here is an idea of ethnic groups of Pakistan, which has over 32 languages and dialects, if you further break down the ethnic groups and languages.



Here is the ethnic overlap with neighboring countries, mainly Punjabis (who are 2% of Indian population), Pushtuns (who are 45% of Afghanistan) and Baloch (who are less than 1% of Iran's population).



Punjabis, Baloch, Pushtuns and Sindhis inhibit this land since centuries and their ancestral civilizations are Indus Valley Civilization, Mehrghar civilization and Gandhara Civilization and PAKISTAN itself is an acronym for these ethnic groups. Punjab, Afghania (old name KPK), Kashmir, Sindh, balochisTAN, this acronym was first used by Ch. Rehmat Ali in 1933.

As far as links to Indian Punjab are concerned, offcourse they are sons of Indus, there were supposed to be part of Pakistan in the original map, but Punjab was divided on pressure from Congress leadership including Sardar Valabhai Patel, if Punjab were to go with Pakistan, today Pakistan would have surrounded Delhi on 3 sides, it would have been a strategic blunder on India's part. Master Tara Singh later regretted the division.

Heres the national [Pakistani tram.

No offence THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE the Turkish or the Iranians

Storm Force said:

Heres the national [Pakistani tram.

No offence THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE the Turkish or the Iranians

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HERES THE TURKISH SOCCOR TEAM



now compare TURKS INDIANS AND PAKISTANIS

Storm Force said:

Heres the national [Pakistani tram.

No offence THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE the Turkish or the Iranians

HERES THE TURKISH SOCCOR TEAM

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now compare TURKS INDIANS AND PAKISTANIS

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It is stupidity to even think that, Pakistanis are a group of ethnic people who have lived on the land of Indus since centuries. Indus Valley Civilization, Mehrghar and Gandhara and indigenous civilizations. Punjabis, Pushtuns, Baloch, Sindhis, Hazara, Baltis, Saraekis, Kashmiris and other small groups have lived on both sides of Indus since ancient times.

MadDog said:

It is stupidity to even think that, Pakistanis are a group of ethnic people who have lived on the land of Indus since centuries. Indus Valley Civilization, Mehrghar and Gandhara and indigenous civilizations. Punjabis, Pushtuns, Baloch, Sindhis, Hazara, Baltis, Saraekis, Kashmiris and other small groups have lived on both sides of Indus since ancient times.

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I'm just educatring Pakistanforvever who despite being a Punjabi himself I think is clearly embaressed about this as he claims they are are closer to turks or Iranians.

NO YOUR NOT BUDDY look at the cricket teams you are soiuth Asian

YOU HAVE NO IDEA OR CONCEPT of the TURKISH OR IRANIAN CULTURE yet your family are even now watcvhing a Bollywood film as we speak

Storm Force said:

I'm just educatring Pakistanforvever who despite being a Punjabi himself I think is clearly embaressed about this as he claims they are are closer to turks or Iranians.

NO YOUR NOT BUDDY look at the cricket teams you are soiuth Asian

YOU HAVE NO IDEA OR CONCEPT of the TURKISH OR IRANIAN CULTURE yet your family are even now watcvhing a Bollywood film as we speak

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Punjab and Sindh are related to South Asia, Punjabs of both India and Pakistan are related, as stated were supposed to be in Pakistan. Balochistan is a bit different, Robert Kaplan in his book Future of Indian Ocean rivalry claims that Balochistan is the eastern most leg of Middle East. Its related to Sistan-Balochistan of Iran. KPK is culturally closer to Eastern/Southern Afghanistan. Gilgit Baltistan is also a bit different, with central asian influence. Pakistan is at a geostrategic location, at the cross roads of atleast 3 regions, it is not fully integrated geographically in one region, thus it is an ideal trade and energy corridor for all neighbours. However the biggest ethnic group is Punjabi followed by Pushtuns, Sindhis and onwards.

All of these ethnic groups have indigenous cultures which developed on both sides of Indus.

Storm Force said:

Heres the national [Pakistani tram.

No offence THEY LOOK NOTHING LIKE the Turkish or the Iranians

HERES THE TURKISH SOCCOR TEAM

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now compare TURKS INDIANS AND PAKISTANIS

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I actually can see a resemblence between Iranians and Pakistanis. Turks are typical mediterinnian (Italian, Greek, Spanish etc)

That said, a Pakistani could easily blend in in Turkey. There are many Southeastern Turks who are of Persian ancestry and look a lot like Iranians and Pakisanis. Add to this there has been tremendous intermarriage ie between Kurds, Turks, Bulgarians, Macedonians etc. A huge portion of contemporary Turks' ancestors come from the Balkans, following the WW1 and population exchange. Blue eyes black hair is not uncommen, or light hair and skin and brown eyes.

Śakra said:

Another great article by Polina Tikhonova. Looking forward to the next one! "America to join Turkey-Pakistan-China-Russian superpower pentangle"

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why dont u write an article.. india to be the biaatch of america soon to please her ...

Zulkarneyn said:

I actually can see a resemblence between Iranians and Pakistanis. Turks are typical mediterinnian (Italian, Greek, Spanish etc)

That said, a Pakistani could easily blend in in Turkey. There are many Southeastern Turks who are of Persian ancestry and look a lot like Iranians and Pakisanis. Add to this there has been tremendous intermarriage ie between Kurds, Turks, Bulgarians, Macedonians etc. A huge portion of contemporary Turks' ancestors come from the Balkans, following the WW1 and population exchange. Blue eyes black hair is not uncommen, or light hair and skin and brown eyes.

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Pakistan has ethnic overlaps with all its neighbours , but the people are indigenous and lived on both sides of River Indus. Indus is to us what Nile is to Eqypt. I agree with you, there is resemblance with different countries when you are located side by side.

At the end we all are Muslims. without any colour, race, origin or country. Why these all nonsense have been started in this thread. please come to topic...