Indian Army destroys Pakistani posts on LoC
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These are FOPs, not bases. Used to help tourists and do local recon. They get built and destroyed all the time. 
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BARA TEER MARA HAI AIK POST URA K WO B KOI PTA NAHI APNI HI HO BHALE...!!
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That's not really a post. Those are just makeshift temporary 'fortification' used to keep an eye on the border. They're usually abandoned when skirmishes start; unless it's a sudden, random and unexpected attack.
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Is it a post or a place for sucide in the hot area?
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Indian army destroyed its own bunkers and played dead enemy combatants for medals
Army officers faked kills for glory
Kanwar Sandhu
Leh/Chandigarh, May 6
The Indian Army could be killing far less enemies in Siachen than it claims. It could also be claiming awards and citations for imagined gallantry. The Leh-based 14 Corps HQ is investigating a massive fraud in which at least a third of 50 claimed “kills” on the glacier last year could be fakes.
In the eye of the storm are the 5/5 Gorkha Rifles and the battalion’s commanding officer (CO), Colonel KD Singh. A young Major of the unit, Surinder Singh, has given an Army court of inquiry (COI) headed by Brig HS Nagra, Deputy GOC, 3 Infantry Division, specific details of fake “kills” made by the company of which he was commander.
The alleged fraud was carried out between July and November 15, 2003. Maj. Singh has claimed that he — and several fellow officers — faked the killings under orders from Col Singh, who allegedly told him (the Major) that he should show “imagination and initiative” in carrying out the acts.
Excerpts from what Maj Singh told the COI:
• On July 29, a lieutenant of his company reported a “kill” in the Chandan complex. But there had been no enemy movement in the area between July 7 and 28.
• On August 8, the same officer shot a fake video of an enemy “kill”. Rifleman Shyam Lal Thapa of the unit posed as the “dead enemy”.
• On August 24, three enemy “kills” were captured on video. Col. Singh rang up to congratulate him the next day, and asked him to ensure a “hazy video”.
• In order to make “enemy activity” realistic, it was decided to first construct an “enemy air defence bunker”, and then destroy it. On September 21, the bunker — in India’s territory — was destroyed by Indian rockets and mortar. A splinter hit Maj. Singh, who was evacuated, and a case for Vir Chakra/Sena Medal for him was moved. The destruction of the “enemy bunker” was recorded on tape.
Maj Singh blew the whistle on the fake kills in December last year, after a disagreement with his CO. He described the fraud to several top commanders, including Army chief Gen NC Vij. Subsequently, Maj Gen RPS Ralhan, GOC, 3 Infantry Division, ordered the COI.
HT sent written queries to the PRO, HQ Northern Command and PRO, Army HQ, seeking comments on the scandal.
The Northern Command PRO did not reply, but a spokesperson in Udhampur said the Army would not like to comment since the matter was “sub judice”. He did not say where the case was pending, and on what issues.
The Army PRO faxed a reply wanting to know specifics like unit names and dates so that he could verify the information.
The scandal is likely to have embarrassed the Army greatly. A few months ago, Corps Commander Lt-Gen Arvind Sharma had actually made a presentation on the Siachen ‘enemy kills’ at the Defence Services Staff College in Wellington
NEW DELHI, India (Reuters) - Indian troops staged fake battles on the world's highest battleground and made false claims about killing Pakistani soldiers in a bid to win medals for gallantry, the Defense Ministry said Friday.
The admission came after the Hindustan Times reported that Indian soldiers had shot "hazy videos" of faked battles on the Siachen glacier last year, posing as dead enemy troops and even destroying one of their own bunkers.
Indian and Pakistani troops have been deployed since 1984 on the snowy wastes of the Siachen glacier, north of the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir. It is one of the world's most inhospitable places, where more soldiers die of cold and altitude sickness than through enemy action.
"Based on certain complaints that enemy killings have been fabricated by one unit in central glacier, a court of inquiry was ordered," the Defense Ministry said in a statement.
It said a major had been found guilty of "having faked killings of some enemy personnel and destruction of enemy bunkers." The officer faces disciplinary action.
The Hindustan Times said that a third of the 50 killings of Pakistan soldiers attributed to Indian troops on the Siachen glacier last year may turn out to be false.
To make their claim realistic, Indian troops built an air defense bunker on their side of the glacier and destroyed it with rockets and mortars, claiming it was a Pakistani bunker, the newspaper said.
But the ministry said nobody had been given any awards for the faked battles.
"The system of awards and citations is absolutely foolproof and above board. There is no question of anyone receiving awards and citations for false claims," the statement said.
India and Pakistan have observed a cease-fire on Siachen since November.
05/07/04 10:49 ET
Army officers faked kills for glory
Kanwar Sandhu
Leh/Chandigarh, May 6
The Indian Army could be killing far less enemies in Siachen than it claims. It could also be claiming awards and citations for imagined gallantry. The Leh-based 14 Corps HQ is investigating a massive fraud in which at least a third of 50 claimed “kills” on the glacier last year could be fakes.
In the eye of the storm are the 5/5 Gorkha Rifles and the battalion’s commanding officer (CO), Colonel KD Singh. A young Major of the unit, Surinder Singh, has given an Army court of inquiry (COI) headed by Brig HS Nagra, Deputy GOC, 3 Infantry Division, specific details of fake “kills” made by the company of which he was commander.
The alleged fraud was carried out between July and November 15, 2003. Maj. Singh has claimed that he — and several fellow officers — faked the killings under orders from Col Singh, who allegedly told him (the Major) that he should show “imagination and initiative” in carrying out the acts.
Excerpts from what Maj Singh told the COI:
• On July 29, a lieutenant of his company reported a “kill” in the Chandan complex. But there had been no enemy movement in the area between July 7 and 28.
• On August 8, the same officer shot a fake video of an enemy “kill”. Rifleman Shyam Lal Thapa of the unit posed as the “dead enemy”.
• On August 24, three enemy “kills” were captured on video. Col. Singh rang up to congratulate him the next day, and asked him to ensure a “hazy video”.
• In order to make “enemy activity” realistic, it was decided to first construct an “enemy air defence bunker”, and then destroy it. On September 21, the bunker — in India’s territory — was destroyed by Indian rockets and mortar. A splinter hit Maj. Singh, who was evacuated, and a case for Vir Chakra/Sena Medal for him was moved. The destruction of the “enemy bunker” was recorded on tape.
Maj Singh blew the whistle on the fake kills in December last year, after a disagreement with his CO. He described the fraud to several top commanders, including Army chief Gen NC Vij. Subsequently, Maj Gen RPS Ralhan, GOC, 3 Infantry Division, ordered the COI.
HT sent written queries to the PRO, HQ Northern Command and PRO, Army HQ, seeking comments on the scandal.
The Northern Command PRO did not reply, but a spokesperson in Udhampur said the Army would not like to comment since the matter was “sub judice”. He did not say where the case was pending, and on what issues.
The Army PRO faxed a reply wanting to know specifics like unit names and dates so that he could verify the information.
The scandal is likely to have embarrassed the Army greatly. A few months ago, Corps Commander Lt-Gen Arvind Sharma had actually made a presentation on the Siachen ‘enemy kills’ at the Defence Services Staff College in Wellington
NEW DELHI, India (Reuters) - Indian troops staged fake battles on the world's highest battleground and made false claims about killing Pakistani soldiers in a bid to win medals for gallantry, the Defense Ministry said Friday.
The admission came after the Hindustan Times reported that Indian soldiers had shot "hazy videos" of faked battles on the Siachen glacier last year, posing as dead enemy troops and even destroying one of their own bunkers.
Indian and Pakistani troops have been deployed since 1984 on the snowy wastes of the Siachen glacier, north of the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir. It is one of the world's most inhospitable places, where more soldiers die of cold and altitude sickness than through enemy action.
"Based on certain complaints that enemy killings have been fabricated by one unit in central glacier, a court of inquiry was ordered," the Defense Ministry said in a statement.
It said a major had been found guilty of "having faked killings of some enemy personnel and destruction of enemy bunkers." The officer faces disciplinary action.
The Hindustan Times said that a third of the 50 killings of Pakistan soldiers attributed to Indian troops on the Siachen glacier last year may turn out to be false.
To make their claim realistic, Indian troops built an air defense bunker on their side of the glacier and destroyed it with rockets and mortars, claiming it was a Pakistani bunker, the newspaper said.
But the ministry said nobody had been given any awards for the faked battles.
"The system of awards and citations is absolutely foolproof and above board. There is no question of anyone receiving awards and citations for false claims," the statement said.
India and Pakistan have observed a cease-fire on Siachen since November.
05/07/04 10:49 ET
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Whats more ironic is how indian army shyt on its own self by disgracefully leaking videos of body exchange ceremonies...
What a bunch of low lives..
But than what more can be expected from a military plagued by fratricides,suicides,fake encounters,destroying its own bunker drama,wife swapping,rapes and whatnot.
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yes after the ceasfire to call your bluff
Cut crap answer this are you denied your own bodies of soilder's or not calling themmujhids in start or not mushy himself revealed all things done decade's later
Realeasing casualties figures 10 year later of war was astonishing .still not able find single reporting by PAK media during 1999
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So did indian army fake those videos too?
Really? is that why Soldiers were awarded Medals for Valor in 2000 ?
You indians are so full of shyt..
I wonder if you are stupid or just pathetic? maybe its a tie.
Pakistan Army mortared it's own troops:
Bend over.... even lied on this one.. only to be exposed by your own:
indian army killed by friendly fire:
More
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/soldier-killed-two-injured-in-friendly-fire-in-kashmir-1203887
More?
Some more:
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ts-in-fatigues-led-to-friendly-fire-incident/
Laugh over these?
@Oscar @Aether this clown has been banned before.. multipe id suicide troll
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These are FOPs, not bases. Used to help tourists and do local recon. They get built and destroyed all the time.
Thats really not a post. These are raised observational structures built along borders for observation as mentioned by sarthakganguly. They are viewable to locals and arent meant to be army posts. If i am not wrong then they are that. And locals call them with the term "Thekriyan" ,cause they are as such shapeless raised structures.
Destroying these is never a big deal because they are built at heights and are always exposed and well in enemy sight. This is what i know at most.
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Really call same videos a fake for decade's untill mushy vomit everything in recent yearsSo did indian army fake those videos too?
Really? is that why Soldiers were awarded Medals for Valor in 2000 ?
You indians are so full of shyt..
I wonder if you are stupid or just pathetic? maybe its a tie.
As far official words there no official confirmation by Pakistani army that they conducted kargil
As for medals should I post a video were karnail Sher khan father thanking India Army to formally giving recognition to his valor and telling this to Rawalpindi then he was awarded the Naisan NE haider
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But according to you low lives we didnt accept our troops? why the U-Turn? Pathetic.
Again pissed on your ownself..
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these pictures are used by indians since last few weeks. they are old pictures. secondly the pictures with pakistani soldiers clearly shows that they were not tense and body language was positive clearly showing no loss of life.
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the first pic isn't Pakistan camo/uniform..The second pic of a PA soldier and a civilian without any cover ... They look so tense .. After a firing incident ..
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