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JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

Guys, It is official: work has started on next generation stealth JF-17(or JF-17 with stealth features)

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cirr said:
Guys, It is official: work has started on next generation stealth JF-17(or JF-17 with stealth features)

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According to Google translate, the picture is of a "Ghost Dragon" model in the modeling system Chengdu is using (as described in the text above the photo).
 
Khafee said:
With DSI is Mach 2 possible?
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that was translated from Chinese Transcript though details are not official. IMO, that would be engine power however, plane with DSI couldn't cross such number but has to remain within 2 Mach. Author was quoting the Engine power that it can push the Plane to such number, IMO.
 
nomi007 said:
best hd image of thunder
by an indian site
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But it is just a 3rd generation plane with no AESA, cannot super cruise, doesnt have BVR, cannot carry RAAD, can only carry one AShm, is short legged, doesnt have any CFTs or demonstrated AAR capbility, and cannot do an Alpha loop. A really bad plane that wont get exported.. How is that for a rant.
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whatever lets you vent your Indian anger Mr. Sharma :cheers:

DJ_Viper said:
Ok, and a Pakistani with two flags of Pakistan would know. I forgot, the American English came from Pakistan. How cool is that? :angel:

When brains can't produce a logical answer, then this type of childish stuff comes out. How about you respond with logic to whatever post lit some fire in your rear? I'd imagine you have some maturity in you. Thanks



Sir, Not everything is meant for production on the great PDF. It was a message to the writer of the post that he was off topic and he is a senor guy I believe. Bringing Laser guided warheads into a discussion about heat seeking missiles makes no sense. I would agree that the former is too advance, but that wasn't the topic. Thanks.
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Khafee said:
@Oscar @Indus Falcon @TaimiKhan @MastanKhan WTH did I just read?


@Oscar @TaimiKhan
Seems like Rip Van Winkle just woke up. A humble request, thread ban for this joker please, in the interest of everyone's sanity!
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Sir, you look super ticked off without any reason. So what's being displayed here? That senior members like you have patience like a bird that you can't tolerate someone with a different view of the world?

Not everything has to match with your taste, nor can you expect all humans to think like you. The over-reaction is very surprising. I expect the senior members to deal with stuff much more professionally and respectfully. Thank you

Asking for a thread ban and lock, is too much IMO. All because you didn't like something from my post? Perhaps you could've provided an alternative source, explanation, etc? We are all here to learn from each other. Not sure why the over reaction on this forum when something being written doesn't go a member's way? The other day, someone insulted me by calling me an Indian member when I told him my actual name. On the same post, the other member called me a Pakistani. Not sure why the opposite view point can't be taken with humanity in mind. Thank you.


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This is from Quora.com . https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-...et-the-jet-body-and-not-its-afterburner-plume

A heat seeking missile makes use of an infrared seeker in its nose in order to detect and lock on to heat signatures.

Almost all heat seeking missiles with the exception of some like the British Starstreak have a proximity fuse with a fragmentation warhead.
This means they don't target any particular part of the plane. Once they near the target, their warhead explodes and sends fragments into the body of the target. The afterburner is user as a homing beacon by the missile.

Most of the times though, the heat seeking missiles manage to hit the engine itself . The case of it hitting the body of an aircraft is very rare.
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There isn't much different than what it is in reality and my post. I have spent many years in this area. So trust me, I know what I am writing about.

How does a missile chase a plane when a jet maneuvers to avoid a missile lock? And at times, during maneuvers, the jet might be facing the missile head on, vs. its tail facing the missile. How would the heat seeker know where to go if the IR target disappears (the hear source)? It is because the main tracking system, has a lock onto through IR homing, and its following the heat left behind the jet. Whether its black (RD-93) or not, it doesn't matter. I think you it very the maneuvers you take to avoid the lock as soon as your sensors give you a missile launch or lock warning). What do Chaffs do? They serve as a decoy and create a temporary smoke screen in front of a chasing missile so it detonates. Read below:


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When ejected from an aircraft, chaff forms the electromagnetic equivalent of a visual smoke screen that temporarily hides the aircraft from radar. Chaff also serves to decoy radar allowing aircraft to maneuver or egress from the area. It consists of small, extremely tie fibers of aluminum or aluminum-coated glass that disperse widely in the air when ejected from the aircraft and effectively reflect radar signals in various bands, in order to create a very large image of reflected signals ("return") on the radar screen. In the air, the initial burst from a chaff bundle forms a sphere that shows up on radar screens as an electronic cloud. The aircraft is obscured by the cloud, which confuses enemy radar. Since chaff can obstruct radar, its use is coordinated with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

There are two types of chaff, aluminum foil and aluminum-coated glass fibers. The foil type is no longer manufactured, although it remains in the inventory and is used primarily by B-52 bombers. Both types are cut into dipoles ranging in length from 0.3 to over 2.0 inches. They are made as small and light as possible so they will remain in the air long enough to confuse enemy radar. The aluminum foil dipoles are 0.45 mils (0.00045 inches) thick and 6 to 8 mils wide. The glass fiber dipoles are generally 1 mil (25.4 microns) in diameter, including the aluminum coating which is 0.12 f 0.06 mils thick. A new superfine glass fiber chaff is being manufactured that is 0.7 mil (17.8 microns) in diameter.
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Windjammer said:
A rare head on shot of the JF-17 performing at the recent Zhuhai air show.


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A very neat, well put together aircraft this! A restrained elegance and clean finish. Simply world class.

CAC/PAC pulled off a good one with this.

Waiting for the JF-18 with active RCS reduction and some hidden goodies...


Indeed, a rare find, very dear Jammer.

May the gusts of your Great Winds keep distributing spare parts of the resident nemesis.


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