JF-17 Block III's proposed AESA Radar KLJ-7A

Hannah_Kravitz said:

well you claimng you're a 4 star general is as true as this radar being chinese or any of the chinese military project being chinese everything even your uniforms are copied there is no country who is as ignorant and brazen to stealing as china contrariliy it embraces this proudly and calls it as a part of the culture

http://www.defensenews.com/story/br...rm-claims--offer-israeli-aesa-radar/31853981/




if only copying something on the outside was enough

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I think you have cross the line of trying to slander a race and no meaningful debate. I will report you to moderater. @waz @Shotgunner51 for flaming and insulting post.

Hannah_Kravitz said:

take it from someone who actually works with the company that



http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/7/41417.pdf

obviouslythese are no the exact specs

sorry my bad i apologize i forgot to add not prone.

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Lol was that your attempt at correcting my grammar? I meant in the aerospace industry* but, nonetheless I stand corrected.

That is solid state EASA. Some member here has mentioned 1000 T/R modules for the aforementioned radar and if it has T/R modules; they have to be exposed!

Hannah_Kravitz said:

that's such a blatant copy of our ELTA radar even the LRUs design and placement is exact i bet even the number of screws would be exact gotta say though with begrudging respect but you chinese are one heck of a plagiarists.


also the description is implying it is equal to the radar on F-35????? is that so????

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Most of the chinese radars are licensed and unlicensed copies of ELTA systems, and NRIET have their own designs as well. They are coming up in the world.

Hannah_Kravitz said:

take it from someone who actually works with the company that



http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/7/41417.pdf

obviouslythese are no the exact specs

sorry my bad i apologize i forgot to add not prone.

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aakash_2410 said:

Lol was that your attempt at correcting my grammar? I meant in the aerospace industry* but, nonetheless I stand corrected.

That is solid state EASA. Some member here has mentioned 1000 T/R modules for the aforementioned radar and if it has T/R modules; they have to be exposed!

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oh no nothing of that sorts english is hardly native to me

Bilal Khan 777 said:

Most of the chinese radars are licensed and unlicensed copies of ELTA systems.

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i know right its so similar its uncanny

Hell hound said:

@Bilal Khan 777 sir can you add something here

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This system was demonstrated last year, and has been under improvements and characterization.

aakash_2410 said:

Take it from someone who works in an aerospace company that you can't make an AESA radar without exposed T/R modules. #Electronics101.

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I don't work for an aerospace company and radars isn't my area of expertise.

A quick Google images search for AESA radar shows many units without exposed T/R modules.



http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/rtnwcm/groups/sas/documents/content/rtn_p_sas_racr_ghtml.html

Perhaps it is possible?

Hannah_Kravitz said:

partial algorithms are enough nobody provides you the exact algorithms after all its our bread and butter we are not even providing the indians the exact algorithms and they will have to extrapolate and develop much of their own too nothing wrong its just business and it relies heavily on the know how.

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Despite having differences, this is not behavior of Israelis, which you are adopting here. I know many of them very closely.
what you are writing here is pure Indian way of talk. Who are obsessed with China's defense products.

I see no reason to call it a copy when Chinese company bought some tech, worked on it with their own design and algo. Only an Indian in this world would insist to call it a paint job.

Bilal Khan 777 said:

This system was demonstrated last year, and has been under improvements and characterization.

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However the dimensions of this systems seems to suggest this being a PESA.

JamD said:

I don't work for an aerospace company and radars isn't my area of expertise.

A quick Google images search for AESA radar shows many units without exposed T/R modules.

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http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/rtnwcm/groups/sas/documents/content/rtn_p_sas_racr_ghtml.html

Perhaps it is possible?

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exposed does not mean what you're thinking here also earlier generation AESA were exposed types but thats a whole other discussion.

Bilal Khan 777 said:

Most of the chinese radars are licensed and unlicensed copies of ELTA systems, and NRIET have their own designs as well. They are coming up in the world.

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Is there evidence for this?

Hannah_Kravitz said:

what would qualify for evidence here would picture of chinese personnels exchanging goods while giving money to the seller would do??? i bet even that would be hard to swallow by hordes of ill mannered chinese trolls here unless its approved by CCP everything else is false.

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I'm glad we settled on the conclusion that you have been basing your claims on nothing more than appearance & stereotype.

Bilal Khan 777 said:

Most of the chinese radars are licensed and unlicensed copies of ELTA systems, and NRIET have their own designs as well. They are coming up in the world.

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oh sure they are coming up no doubt about that and it will be great addition to JF-17 wouldn't you say?

grey boy 2 said:

Chinese in most of the Chinese defense forums are so happy of this wonderful news for our Pakistanis brothers, unfortunately when we brought this news here, we're met with doubts, most of all an Indian troll has been allowed to insult Chinese copy this copy that to have a trolling field day right here, thanks bros once again

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can you name any other non chinese forum where it is praised of course chinese will praise it to high heavens as long as it is CCP and PLA approved.

Will it be built under license?

grey boy 2 said:

Chinese in most of the Chinese defense forums are so happy of this wonderful news for our Pakistanis brothers, unfortunately when we brought this news here, we're met with doubts, most of all an Indian troll has been allowed to insult Chinese copy this copy that to have a trolling field day right here, thanks bros once again

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Don't mind of any negative comments, the reality is that PAF is serious about AESA for JFT block-3 and they have more then one option and since some time it is said that surprisingly Chinese offering better quality radar then what Selex is offering.

@Windjammer

HAKIKAT said:

All properties are stolen - Karl Marx

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grey boy 2 said:

Chinese in most of the Chinese defense forums are so happy of this wonderful news for our Pakistanis brothers, unfortunately when we brought this news here, we're met with doubts, most of all an Indian troll has been allowed to insult Chinese copy this copy that to have a trolling field day right here, thanks bros once again

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China is next super power and we know that China will surpass west in every science and technology field.