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Are France and Sweden Developing 5th Generation Fighter Jets?

Penguin said:
a gripen, a rafeale and a typhoon also look alike.


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keep coverring your eyes

Penguin said:
a gripen, a rafeale and a typhoon also look alike.


Blablabla (you are so sharp you didnt even notice its a swedish, not a german system...And flygsystem 2020 is a single engine design)
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I don't care swedish system or german system, just focus on the design
It is you who mention german here. it is so malicious to Provoke a conflict between others
Put away your hypocrisy and pseudo Fair
Desperate loser mentality
 
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royalharris said:
keep coverring your eyes


I don't care swedish system or german system, just focus on the design
It is you who mention german here. it is so malicious to Provoke a conflict between others
Put away your hypocrisy and pseudo Fair
Desperate loser mentality
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Try posting something more usefull than oneliners saying china is best. Im not provoking anything between anybody else but myself and you. Please cite or quote my ' pseudo fair'. Or REPORT it. The only one with a fawlty mentality is you (pun intended)

royalharris said:
but the design do, keep fool yourself
i like german, but don't bring german here to certify your BS
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Nice edit.
 
nowadays it's never one country affair anymore.in every major project u need alote of vendors to keep the costs down.its not cold war anymore now its all about money
 
anon45 said:
Alone I'd imagine it would be exceedingly difficult. They would need some guaranteed buys aside from their own (unless they have a 1000+ 5th gen airforce planned), or else their costs will skyrocket The best option would be a collaborative effort, but they might not have enough partners to make it viable.

Either way, it will be a huge undertaking, but given how France is, they might do it anyway, whatever the inefficiency and cost.

As for Sweden, with a total yearly gdp of less than 1 trillion, I struggle to see how they could fund a 5th gen program on their own for any reasonable time frame that wouldn't leave it obsolete by the time it became operational.
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I think France will get partners from ME.
 
France doesn't, while Sweden has.
 
anon45 said:
Alone I'd imagine it would be exceedingly difficult. They would need some guaranteed buys aside from their own (unless they have a 1000+ 5th gen airforce planned), or else their costs will skyrocket The best option would be a collaborative effort, but they might not have enough partners to make it viable.

Either way, it will be a huge undertaking, but given how France is, they might do it anyway, whatever the inefficiency and cost.

As for Sweden, with a total yearly gdp of less than 1 trillion, I struggle to see how they could fund a 5th gen program on their own for any reasonable time frame that wouldn't leave it obsolete by the time it became operational.
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SAAB is developing stealth technology in the nEUROn UAV together with other European partners.
They have multiple time mentioned Gripen UAV, so I expect some kind of unmanned fighter research to emerge
from that, but not in the short time frame.
 

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