China warns of instability in response to report on US, India considering patrols in South China Sea

true · Feb 12, 2016

The south Chinese sea is as Chinese as the IN indian ocean is indian , the ridiculous Chinese ancient kingdom territory claims is one of the most biased arguments I've ever heard off , hell lets go by that logic and give crippled Mongolia most of Asia

chhota bheem · Feb 12, 2016

wanglaokan said:
USA don't give a **** about whether China is democracy or not, they mind the size and power of Chinese military. We will push democracy while we will keep challenging USA's hegemony.

I feel china has lot to gain by giving up some of the claims of scs,US comes into SCS when there is dispute and some nations feel they cannot take on china alone.if the claims are withdrawn by china,then there is no place for china in scs.and all the asian countries will be more than happu to work with china.
And everyone is not like Pakistan to give away the land and be happy about it,scs disputes cannt be resolved on the same lines.

You need friends bro ,how ever big you are,thats what the US has.

Play wise and the world can yours.

wanglaokan said:
USA don't give a **** about whether China is democracy or not, they mind the size and power of Chinese military. We will push democracy while we will keep challenging USA's hegemony.

I feel china has lot to gain by giving up some of the claims of scs,US comes into SCS when there is dispute and some nations feel they cannot take on china alone.if the claims are withdrawn by china,then there is no place for US in scs.and all the asian countries will be more than happu to work with china.
And everyone is not like Pakistan to give away the land and be happy about it,scs disputes cannt be resolved on the same lines.

You need friends bro ,how ever big you are,thats what the US has.

Play wise and the world can yours.

帅的一匹 · Feb 12, 2016

true said:
The south Chinese sea is as Chinese as the IN indian ocean is indian , the ridiculous Chinese ancient kingdom territory claims is one of the most biased arguments I've ever heard off , hell lets go by that logic and give crippled Mongolia most of Asia

Asia didn't belong to Monglia before it conquered , but SCS was found by Chinese at the first beginning.

chhota bheem said:
I feel china has lot to gain by giving up some of the claims of scs,US comes into SCS when there is dispute and some nations feel they cannot take on china alone.if the claims are withdrawn by china,then there is no place for china in scs.and all the asian countries will be more than happu to work with china.
And everyone is not like Pakistan to give away the land and be happy about it,scs disputes cannt be resolved on the same lines.

You need friends bro ,how ever big you are,thats what the US has.

Play wise and the world can yours.

I feel china has lot to gain by giving up some of the claims of scs,US comes into SCS when there is dispute and some nations feel they cannot take on china alone.if the claims are withdrawn by china,then there is no place for US in scs.and all the asian countries will be more than happu to work with china.
And everyone is not like Pakistan to give away the land and be happy about it,scs disputes cannt be resolved on the same lines.

You need friends bro ,how ever big you are,thats what the US has.

Play wise and the world can yours.

Even if China withdraw from SCS, USA will still be around to force China into the corner. We can't afford to loose what our ancestor had, or the government will be discarded by our people. We Chinese have guts, we don't afraid of contested battle, even with USA.

CHD · Feb 12, 2016

Comeone baniyas confront the evil chinese, no one can dare touch ex-vedic and current supa pawa

Nan Yang · Feb 13, 2016

vayuputhra said:
How come China who is out of Indian ocean region can do subversive activities in srilanka and Maldives and also Bangladesh, what has China got to do with these countries, it wants to destabilize India by all means, example is these Chinese a$$ licking JNU students, so what's wrong to side with the Americans? For that we should get advanced tech in return.

China has lots of business to be in the Indian Ocean. A lot of China's imported oil and trade with Europe goes through the Indian ocean. The Marine Silk road also goes through the Indian ocean. These shipping are also under threat from pirates. The middle east is also very unstable. China needs to be there to protect its citizens. So there are many reason for China to be in the Indian ocean.

But India has no business in South China seas. Name me one.

nang2 · Feb 13, 2016

Nan Yang said:
China has lots of business to be in the Indian Ocean. A lot of China's imported oil and trade with Europe goes through the Indian ocean. The Marine Silk road also goes through the Indian ocean. These shipping are also under threat from pirates. The middle east is also very unstable. China needs to be there to protect its citizens. So there are many reason for China to be in the Indian ocean.

But India has no business in South China seas. Name me one.

I will give you one: to piss off Chinese. Some Indians think that is also their business to do so.

true · Feb 13, 2016

Nan Yang said:
China has lots of business to be in the Indian Ocean. A lot of China's imported oil and trade with Europe goes through the Indian ocean. The Marine Silk road also goes through the Indian ocean. These shipping are also under threat from pirates. The middle east is also very unstable. China needs to be there to protect its citizens. So there are many reason for China to be in the Indian ocean.

But India has no business in South China seas. Name me one.

Japan , south Korea , Vietnam , Malaysia , says otherwise. India has to pass through add to reach these countries .

chhota bheem · Feb 13, 2016

wanglaokan said:
Asia didn't belong to Monglia before it conquered , but SCS was found by Chinese at the first beginning.
Even if China withdraw from SCS, USA will still be around to force China into the corner. We can't afford to loose what our ancestor had, or the government will be discarded by our people. We Chinese have guts, we don't afraid of contested battle, even with USA.

This is the same attitude that will take china down,for a second if you forget nationalism and see the claim in china sea,you will see how out of place it looks like.
Times have changed,they say life started in the planes of africa and people moved from there,can the africans claim the whole world.

The peoblem with being alone is ,even if you win 100 times ,all it takes is one defeat.Germany lost because it dint have friends who could stand with it ,when Germany needed it.
Dont worry bro about the govt it has to go.people can takecare of themselfs.they dont need someone to take care of them.infact i feel chinese people are soft and hard working,as i havnt seen mass protests against the CCP,i could be wrong as we know nothing much comes out of china which is against the CCP.

nang2 · Feb 13, 2016

chhota bheem said:
This is the same attitude that will take china down,for a second if you forget nationalism and see the claim in china sea,you will see how out of place it looks like.
Times have changed,they say life started in the planes of africa and people moved from there,can the africans claim the whole world.

The peoblem with being alone is ,even if you win 100 times ,all it takes is one defeat.Germany lost because it dint have friends who could stand with it ,when Germany needed it.
Dont worry bro about the govt it has to go.people can takecare of themselfs.they dont need someone to take care of them.infact i feel chinese people are soft and hard working,as i havnt seen mass protests against the CCP,i could be wrong as we know nothing much comes out of china which is against the CCP.

I am curious. Why would it be out of place? Would it be out of place that Norway controls Greenland? Would it out of place US controls Alaska, Hawaii and Guam? Would it be out of place Russia controls the vast but thinly populated Siberia?

Tshering22 · Feb 13, 2016

Told you all that this is against our foreign policy.

We don't do joint patrols outside UN-mandated places. SCS is not in our area and nor is there any UN-mandate there for piracy or anything else. However UNCLOS is still applicable.

chhota bheem · Feb 13, 2016

nang2 said:
I am curious. Why would it be out of place? Would it be out of place that Norway controls Greenland? Would it out of place US controls Alaska, Hawaii and Guam? Would it be out of place Russia controls the vast but thinly populated Siberia?

All these places you mentioned have people living there and they want to be with the country which are claiming and ruling the land.and none of these are claimed by any other country.

vayuputhra · Feb 13, 2016

Nan Yang said:
China has lots of business to be in the Indian Ocean. A lot of China's imported oil and trade with Europe goes through the Indian ocean. The Marine Silk road also goes through the Indian ocean. These shipping are also under threat from pirates. The middle east is also very unstable. China needs to be there to protect its citizens. So there are many reason for China to be in the Indian ocean.

But India has no business in South China seas. Name me one.

All our goods from Japan and Australia passes through SCS, we have lot of oil wells in Vietnam and Brunei, we have lot of business with south Korea, and culturally we have interests in south China sea, and also we have help our friends in distress, so we have all the rights to be in south China sea, stop us if you can :sarcastic:

帅的一匹 · Feb 13, 2016

Tshering22 said:
Told you all that this is against our foreign policy.

We don't do joint patrols outside UN-mandated places. SCS is not in our area and nor is there any UN-mandate there for piracy or anything else. However UNCLOS is still applicable.

Actually we respect India right in Indian Ocean, in return you will respect ours in SCS. You manage your own busniess and we manage ours. China is not that bad as some western media describe, we just can't loose our interests in SCS, same as you can't loose it with Adman sea. Although I know India is unhappy with China in some area, that isn't enough reason to help USA tie down China. Guess who will be next USA is gonna contain in Asia who has a independent foreign policy, I guess. It's India. Asian brothers and sisters, don't fool your self by the sweet word by USA, how did USA treat India in 1970s and how did they treat China and Pakistan now?! That's why IAF don't buy USA fighters, you don't trust them.

vayuputhra said:
All our goods from Japan and Australia passes through SCS, we have lot of oil wells in Vietnam and Brunei, we have lot of business with south Korea, and culturally we have interests in south China sea, and also we have help our friends in distress, so we have all the rights to be in south China sea, stop us if you can

You have fully right to pass your merchandise ships in SCS, we won't stop it. But the warship is not welcomed there.

chhota bheem said:
This is the same attitude that will take china down,for a second if you forget nationalism and see the claim in china sea,you will see how out of place it looks like.
Times have changed,they say life started in the planes of africa and people moved from there,can the africans claim the whole world.

The peoblem with being alone is ,even if you win 100 times ,all it takes is one defeat.Germany lost because it dint have friends who could stand with it ,when Germany needed it.
Dont worry bro about the govt it has to go.people can takecare of themselfs.they dont need someone to take care of them.infact i feel chinese people are soft and hard working,as i havnt seen mass protests against the CCP,i could be wrong as we know nothing much comes out of china which is against the CCP.

My friend! Even CCP step down, we won't give away SCS. Even CCP dares to give up SCS, it will have no face to be the ruling party.

chhota bheem · Feb 13, 2016

wanglaokan said:
My friend! Even CCP step down, we won't give away SCS. Even CCP dares to give up SCS, it will have no face to be the ruling party.

no Chinese are too timid to go against CCP,any way lets not derail the thread.

Lets stick to SCS and benifits to china by giving up some of the claims and having friendly neighbours.

Abingdonboy · Feb 13, 2016

nang2 said:
Read this: "
The Indian navy has never carried out joint patrols with another country and a navy spokesman told Reuters there was no change in the government's policy of only joining an international military effort under the U.N. flag.

Source: China warns of instability in response to report on US, India considering patrols in South China Sea"

In short, Indian navy will attend such a practice if China agrees.

This is India's stance in every aspect- it will only go where there is a UN mandate to do so, it has reitierated this point over the years across multiple theatres; SCS, Iraq, Syria etc etc. Nothing has changed, India won't get sucked into others' fights.

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