"The science we know originates from Isaac Newton" - Discuss

So i told @S.U.R.B. in reference to his status that 'The science we know originates from Isaac Newton.' But he dismissed it saying it was only my opinion. But i thought it was one of the most accurate things i've ever said. Now i want to invite this forum's physicists to give their valuable thoughts on this statement.

@FairAndUnbiased @TruthSeeker @kbd-raaf Please judge the merits of this proposition.

Other members are invited to give their valuable opinion as well.

Gauss said:

'The science we know originates from Isaac Newton.'

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IMHO, your statement is correct but, perhaps, too all-encompassing in the use of "The". I believe that Newton stands as the single most important philosopher whose work led to modern science. I personally, would rank him number one, followed by Einstein. However, one cannot blithely overlook countless others such as Galileo, Darwin, Maxwell, Bohr, your namesake, Gauss, etc.

I'd disagree, modern Physics, definitely yes. But then again, observation is a key part of scientific process, which dates back to thousand of years. Newton, is in no doubt, the messiah of modern physics, but in no way is the origin.

Skull and Bones said:

I'd disagree, modern Physics, definitely yes. But then again, observation is a key part of scientific process, which dates back to thousand of years. Newton, is in no doubt, the messiah of modern physics, but in no way is the origin.

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If only he'd had just consumed that blasted apple I would've been spared the hours of torture I had to endure in my Physics classes !

Armstrong said:

If only he'd had just consumed that blasted apple I would've been spared the hours of torture I had to endure in my Physics classes !

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It's only numbers, letters, symbols, and graphs. Can't be that difficult.

TruthSeeker said:

However, one cannot blithely overlook countless others such as Galileo, Darwin, Maxwell, Bohr, your namesake, Gauss, etc.

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I think his name is based off of the Greek God Chaos, which in Latinized Arabic Gauss. @Gauss ?

XenoEnsi-14 said:

I think his name is based off of the Greek God Chaos, which in Latinized Arabic Gauss. @Gauss ?

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No, i took my name from Carl Friedrich Gauss after reading a short biography about him in my discrete math book.

Human knowledge is passed across civilization and across many people no 1 person can claim anything

Gauss said:

So i told @S.U.R.B. in reference to his status that 'The science we know originates from Isaac Newton.' But he dismissed it saying it was only my opinion. But i thought it was one of the most accurate things i've ever said. Now i want to invite this forum's physicists to give their valuable thoughts on this statement.

@FairAndUnbiased @TruthSeeker @kbd-raaf Please judge the merits of this proposition.

Other members are invited to give their valuable opinion as well.

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Newton contributed to mechanics and calculus but wasn't the only person. There were alot of others like Galileo who contributed to mechanics, as well as Leibnitz to calculus. I would say that the most influential scientist ever was Boltzmann, since thermodynamics is THE theory responsible for the industrial revolution, chemistry, materials science, biology, etc.

FairAndUnbiased said:

Newton contributed to mechanics and calculus but wasn't the only person. There were alot of others like Galileo who contributed to mechanics, as well as Leibnitz to calculus. I would say that the most influential scientist ever was Boltzmann, since thermodynamics is THE theory responsible for the industrial revolution, chemistry, materials science, biology, etc.

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But didnt Newton introduce the idea of conservation of energy when he said that a body in motion will continue moving with a constant velocity in a straight line forever. Before that people thought that a moving body will stop on its own.
If there was no Newton one would never arrive at the second law of thermodynamics, which says that the extractable energy of a system decreases with time as i understand. For example, if one tried to extract mechanical energy from the moon as it revolves around the earth, the moon will crash into the earth. But first the nature of the motion of the moon has to be known which Newton explained.

Gauss said:

But didnt Newton introduce the idea of conservation of energy when he said that a body in motion will continue moving with a constant velocity in a straight line forever. Before that people thought that a moving body will stop on its own.
If there was no Newton one would never arrive at the second law of thermodynamics, which says that the extractable energy of a system decreases with time as i understand. For example, if one tried to extract mechanical energy from the moon as it revolves around the earth, the moon will crash into the earth. But first the nature of the motion of the moon has to be known which Newton explained.

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actually, thermodynamics is completely independent of mechanics. It doesn't even require quantum mechanics to be right in order to work. that is because thermodynamics is simply the study of random systems. What that system is isn't important. However, current usage of thermodynamics is mostly in materials science, chemistry and biology.

2nd law of thermodynamics: it is actually derivable for a system that is completely generalized. All it requires is that it has some conserved quantity corresponding to energy, there is alot of particles, and that the system obeys equipartition (every configuration of particles has the same probability of appearing).

Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See "Derivation for canonical ensemble".

This physics is only applicable under this gravity circumstances. These rules nullified outside this world.

Not really thats called classical physics it doesnot explain phenomenos such as Time dialation and energy in discreet form

Armstrong said:

If only he'd had just consumed that blasted apple I would've been spared the hours of torture I had to endure in my Physics classes !

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The apple never fell on his head he made that story up (▼皿▼#)

Ghazwa e Hind said:

This physics is only applicable under this gravity circumstances. These rules nullified outside this world.

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Thts where modern physics helps us buddy

Strongly disagree. While Newton's contribution to Physics and Mathematics is immense, there is no one single starting point for Science. Physics itself has moved on from Newtonian mechanics to Quantum. It is a process of continuous progression, many people contributed to its timeline. Newton is one of the greatest contributors but to state that modern science originated from him is preposterous, besides there is more to Science than Physics and Mathematics.

jaunty said:

....besides there is more to Science than Physics and Mathematics.

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"Hah! Beyond physics and mathematics "Science" involves only trivial extensions. "

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