Russia-Pakistan Mi-35 Contract Could be Expanded

This deal might go up to 30-50 helis.

Imran Khan said:

sir jee
next door means china z-10
we will have three SQN one russian one US may be lat one chines . please remember pakistan did not have more then 40 gun ship helicopters ever . i am not talking abut used but new

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Sir,
China would like Pakistan to have more than 40 Z-10 and 60 Z-9's for different roles and hence has also offered local manufacturing, unfortunately this can not be done at the moment. These Z-10's are for the Indian Apache's but we all know never have heli's gone after other heli's hence US is also willing to provide Zulu.

As far as the Zulu's are concerned PAA has all the prerequisites to acquire them but due to financial problems faced after the Earthquake and US unable to manufacture them due to domestic orders had to convince Pakistan and Russia to provide Mil heli's.

Today the requirement is far more complex hence PAA is looking to increase the numbers of its Heli's. We all know that Pakistan would some how manage to get economic sanctions (though the chances are slim) hence the armed forces are going to some how counter these. The best thing is to find the most reliable supplier, China is one, Turkey would have been a natural choice but the issue with ATAK T-129 was that it uses a US engine. The Indian blunder came as a gold spoon for Pakistan and Russia opened up...

Pakistan on her Western Borders require 40 or so heli's to effectively defend herself and if required can also advance. Russia has no deal with Afghanistan like it has with India so it has no objection to supply attack heli's. The icing on the cake would be if Pakistan is able to buy the Mil-28 NE's.

Still the requirement of heavy lift remains...Airbus, Bell, MIL and China would again be competing....
A treat to watch...

DESERT FIGHTER said:

Unless you cancel that 925 + 85 million dollar deal for the Vipers?

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There is no such requirement.

There is a credit line of $2 bil with Russia and that is not very difficult to maintain. There are many other military stuff that is being looked at and that is the reason we see small orders. This is going to continue like this for a few years bringing the numbers higher in small batches and continuous supply chain so that cost remains consistent and also fulfill training schedules.

ACE OF THE AIR said:

Sir,
China would like Pakistan to have more than 40 Z-10 and 60 Z-9's for different roles and hence has also offered local manufacturing, unfortunately this can not be done at the moment. These Z-10's are for the Indian Apache's but we all know never have heli's gone after other heli's hence US is also willing to provide Zulu.

As far as the Zulu's are concerned PAA has all the prerequisites to acquire them but due to financial problems faced after the Earthquake and US unable to manufacture them due to domestic orders had to convince Pakistan and Russia to provide Mil heli's.

Today the requirement is far more complex hence PAA is looking to increase the numbers of its Heli's. We all know that Pakistan would some how manage to get economic sanctions (though the chances are slim) hence the armed forces are going to some how counter these. The best thing is to find the most reliable supplier, China is one, Turkey would have been a natural choice but the issue with ATAK T-129 was that it uses a US engine. The Indian blunder came as a gold spoon for Pakistan and Russia opened up...

Pakistan on her Western Borders require 40 or so heli's to effectively defend herself and if required can also advance. Russia has no deal with Afghanistan like it has with India so it has no objection to supply attack heli's. The icing on the cake would be if Pakistan is able to buy the Mil-28 NE's.

Still the requirement of heavy lift remains...Airbus, Bell, MIL and China would again be competing....
A treat to watch...



There is no such requirement.

There is a credit line of $2 bil with Russia and that is not very difficult to maintain. There are many other military stuff that is being looked at and that is the reason we see small orders. This is going to continue like this for a few years bringing the numbers higher in small batches and continuous supply chain so that cost remains consistent and also fulfill training schedules.

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There is no such requirement ? Lmao ... Apparently the deal for the Vipers has been signed .... The 4 MI-35s were the initial batch and the "line of credit" doesn't exist ... Rather you are quoting recent russian investment in energy sector.

Also the requirement is around 60 gunships.. To replace the ageing cobra fleet...

MI 35 OLD BUT NOT ABSOLUTE

HAIDER said:

What Russian break even point per barrel ? . I think its 45 dollar today and Russia need around 60 or more

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Oil producing nations needs above 65$ per barrel rate for there economy to be in positive mode and Russia is not suffering alone for oil prices fall

DESERT FIGHTER said:

There is no such requirement ?

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Sorry you misunderstood, There is no such requirement to cancel the zulu deal to procure Russian or Chinese heli.

According to Jung News, Russian Media reports that Pakistan wants to buy 12 MI-35 Helicopters from Russia and Russian FM confirms that the deal of four MI-35 Helicopters is expendable. According to the news Pakistan told Russia that we have the capacity to buy 10 to 12 MI-35 Helicopters

I know 4 will become 15 and soon 15 will become 25 and finally end up with 40-50 more . Wats up with u Russia ?Too much pressure from china ?

already posted sputnik original article two days ago

Ind4Ever said:

I know 4 will become 15 and soon 15 will become 25 and finally end up with 40-50 more . Wats up with u Russia ?Too much pressure from china ?

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Why are you getting so jealous in this post you are not invited in our good moments
you Indian

You know.....................................
how much you know about relation with Pakistan and Russia
you people are never happy with our good relation with china and russia
Pakistan outclass soviet union in afghan war but still after that war we are warming up our relation
not like you after war still in state of war
you indian are just lost your mind after watching the our relation china and russia

Nice to see beasts coming in our fleet. Awesome firepower and no place to hide for taliban rodents.
We should deploy them in Pak afghan border areas and few on eastern and Western border to keep check tiny mini naughty rodents .
We should increase its number upto 24.
Rest, we should leave work on Zulus , for quicker response with hellfire missiles on bigger taliban groups.

mi will on afghan front but hellfire are for indian armour

Ind4Ever said:

I know 4 will become 15 and soon 15 will become 25 and finally end up with 40-50 more . Wats up with u Russia ?Too much pressure from china ?

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Will not China Offer its own products (z-10) rather then lobbying for us to buy stuff from Russia ??
Aqal hota sabhe kay paas hay, use kam he kartay hay.

good for pakistan to use russian stuff rather than chinese models

Ind4Ever said:

I know 4 will become 15 and soon 15 will become 25 and finally end up with 40-50 more . Wats up with u Russia ?Too much pressure from china ?

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Let's have a visit around your anus to check the burn