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Britain's supersonic super-drone Taranis tested over Australian desert
FEBRUARY 07, 2014 7:33AM


UK stealth drone

CHARLES MIRANDA and STAFF WRITERS news.com.au

THE future of warfare is awesomely terrifying.

Britain has developed a new super-drone which will be able to fly undetected by radar, travel at supersonic speeds and carry guided bombs and missiles, all while being controlled via satellite from anywhere in the world.

The drone, named "Taranis" in a reference to the Celtic thunder god, has been in development since 2006. It's come with a price tag of $337 million, and has been funded jointly by Britain's Ministry of Defence and a group of defence companies in the UK.

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A "demonstrator" aircraft was unveiled in July of 2010. The drone then had to undergo a bunch of pre-flight tests.

"These included unmanned pilot training, radar cross section measurements, ground station system integration and, in April 2013, taxi trials," defence company BAE says.

It finally flew for the first time in August, and although the British government won't confirm the location, the historic flight appears to have taken place over the South Australian desert.

Coalition military forces have previously used the RAAF's Woomera test range, which is 500km northwest of Adelaide.

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Apparently, parts of the aircraft were flown to Australia in a giant C-17 military transporter and reassembled on the ground in a guarded hangar.

You can watch footage of the flight above.

"The demonstrator aircraft made a perfect takeoff, rotation, climb-out and landing on its 15-minute first flight," the British Ministry of Defence said in a statement.

Taranis has been designed to handle a wide range of missions, including "sustained surveillance, marking targets, gathering intelligence, deterring adversaries and carrying out strikes in hostile territory".

Translated, that means it spies on things, puts bullseyes on things, spies on things, intimidates people and blows stuff up. It's practically an entire military. All within a drone that's 12m long and 10m wide.
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"The Taranis concept aircraft represents the pinnacle of UK engineering and aeronautical design," BAE says.

"(It's) the result of one-and-a-half million man hours of work by the UK's leading scientists, aerodynamicists and systems engineers from 250 UK companies.

"The findings from the aircraft's test flights show that the UK has developed a significant lead in understanding unmanned aircraft which could strike with precision over a long range whilst remaining undetected."

As we said, it's awesomely terrifying.
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This image from 2010 shows the Taranis prototype. Source: AP

Specs:
Data from Airforce-Technology.com[9]
General characteristics

Length: 12.43 m (40 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 10 m (32 ft 10 in) (approximate)[20]
Height: 4 m (13 ft 1 in)
Powerplant: 1 × Rolls-Royce Adour Moderate by-pass ratio turbofan engine, 44 kN (10,000 lbf) thrust (approximate)
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach < 1 [17]
Armament

2 x internal missile bay provision

Britain's supersonic super-drone Taranis tested over Australian desert | News.com.au

Hopefully it will soon be raining down on ISIS terrorists in syria and Iraq from our new bases in UAE and Bahrain. Britain Beefs Up Military Might In Bahrain, UK to establish £15m permanent Mid East military base - BBC News

Now going up against:


France completes testing of Neuron UCAV
Frédéric Lert, Bordeaux - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

10 March 2015

France has completed its flight test campaign of the Neuron unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) technology demonstrator, the country's defence procurement agency has stated.

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Flight trials were completed on 26 February, according to the Direction générale de l'armement (DGA), 26 months after the UCAV's first flight on 1 December 2012.
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France has completed its set of flight trials on the pan-European Neuron UCAV technology demonstrator. (Dassault Aviation)

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The flight trial programme included 100 flights, split into two main phases. With the French part of the programme completed, the pan-European UCAV will now move to Italy and then Sweden for further testing.

The first phase of testing focused on the aircraft's flight envelope and checking its systems. This included around 80 flights and the same amount of flight hours, with the aircraft operated by Dassault under the leadership of the DGA.

France completes testing of Neuron UCAV - IHS Jane's 360

Take your pick.:police:
 
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Britain's supersonic super-drone Taranis tested over Australian desert
FEBRUARY 07, 2014 7:33AM


UK stealth drone

CHARLES MIRANDA and STAFF WRITERS news.com.au

THE future of warfare is awesomely terrifying.

Britain has developed a new super-drone which will be able to fly undetected by radar, travel at supersonic speeds and carry guided bombs and missiles, all while being controlled via satellite from anywhere in the world.

The drone, named "Taranis" in a reference to the Celtic thunder god, has been in development since 2006. It's come with a price tag of $337 million, and has been funded jointly by Britain's Ministry of Defence and a group of defence companies in the UK.

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A "demonstrator" aircraft was unveiled in July of 2010. The drone then had to undergo a bunch of pre-flight tests.

"These included unmanned pilot training, radar cross section measurements, ground station system integration and, in April 2013, taxi trials," defence company BAE says.

It finally flew for the first time in August, and although the British government won't confirm the location, the historic flight appears to have taken place over the South Australian desert.

Coalition military forces have previously used the RAAF's Woomera test range, which is 500km northwest of Adelaide.

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Apparently, parts of the aircraft were flown to Australia in a giant C-17 military transporter and reassembled on the ground in a guarded hangar.

You can watch footage of the flight above.

"The demonstrator aircraft made a perfect takeoff, rotation, climb-out and landing on its 15-minute first flight," the British Ministry of Defence said in a statement.

Taranis has been designed to handle a wide range of missions, including "sustained surveillance, marking targets, gathering intelligence, deterring adversaries and carrying out strikes in hostile territory".

Translated, that means it spies on things, puts bullseyes on things, spies on things, intimidates people and blows stuff up. It's practically an entire military. All within a drone that's 12m long and 10m wide.
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"The Taranis concept aircraft represents the pinnacle of UK engineering and aeronautical design," BAE says.

"(It's) the result of one-and-a-half million man hours of work by the UK's leading scientists, aerodynamicists and systems engineers from 250 UK companies.

"The findings from the aircraft's test flights show that the UK has developed a significant lead in understanding unmanned aircraft which could strike with precision over a long range whilst remaining undetected."

As we said, it's awesomely terrifying.
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This image from 2010 shows the Taranis prototype. Source: AP

Specs:
Data from Airforce-Technology.com[9]
General characteristics

Length: 12.43 m (40 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 10 m (32 ft 10 in) (approximate)[20]
Height: 4 m (13 ft 1 in)
Powerplant: 1 × Rolls-Royce Adour Moderate by-pass ratio turbofan engine, 44 kN (10,000 lbf) thrust (approximate)
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach < 1 [17]
Armament

2 x internal missile bay provision

Britain's supersonic super-drone Taranis tested over Australian desert | News.com.au

Hopefully it will soon be raining down on ISIS terrorists in syria and Iraq from our new bases in UAE and Bahrain. Britain Beefs Up Military Might In Bahrain, UK to establish £15m permanent Mid East military base - BBC News

Now going up against:


France completes testing of Neuron UCAV
Frédéric Lert, Bordeaux - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

10 March 2015

France has completed its flight test campaign of the Neuron unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) technology demonstrator, the country's defence procurement agency has stated.

p1631230.jpg

Flight trials were completed on 26 February, according to the Direction générale de l'armement (DGA), 26 months after the UCAV's first flight on 1 December 2012.
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France has completed its set of flight trials on the pan-European Neuron UCAV technology demonstrator. (Dassault Aviation)

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The flight trial programme included 100 flights, split into two main phases. With the French part of the programme completed, the pan-European UCAV will now move to Italy and then Sweden for further testing.

The first phase of testing focused on the aircraft's flight envelope and checking its systems. This included around 80 flights and the same amount of flight hours, with the aircraft operated by Dassault under the leadership of the DGA.

France completes testing of Neuron UCAV - IHS Jane's 360

Take your pick.:police:

Why not both
 
Why not both

Ahahahahah.....you are right bro. We already thought about that.:)

Fighter jet drones move closer as BAE and Dassault link up


An artist's impression of how a new unmanned fighter drone might look
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By Alan Tovey, Industry Editor
5:44PM GMT 05 Nov 2014

Unmanned jet fighters move closer to reality as Britain's BAE and France's Dassault sign £120m joint research contract with governments

Drones that could eventually replace the current generation of jet fighters have moved a step closer after BAE Systems and Dassault Aviation won a £120m contract.

Britain’s BAE and France’s Dassault have signed a two-year joint contract with the UK and French governments to look at what would be needed to build such an aircraft.

The deal confirms the Anglo-French agreement announced at the Farnborough Air Show in July, and is the next step towards unmanned jets that could replace the current fourth-generation fighters - the Typhoon in Britain and the Rafale in France.

The contract will focus on developing the technology needed to create the drones – officially known as the Future Combat Air System (FCAS).


Once the two-year agreement comes to an end, work could then begin on building a prototype drone.

The new contract is expected to support hundreds of jobs at BAE and Dassault, as well at other companies in the programme’s supply chain, including Rolls-Royce, Selex ES, Snecma (Safran) and Thales.

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Ian King, BAE chief executive, said: “This contract award is a key step in the partnership between our two nations, governments and industries. The feasibility phase will allow UK and French industry to work closely together and provide a strong foundation for a potential follow-on FCAS demonstration programme as well as supporting a number of highly skilled jobs.”

Eric Trappier, chairman and chief executive of Dassault, said: “This new step prepares the future of both manned and unmanned combat air systems. It ensures French and British companies maintain their technological excellence which is vital to competitiveness in a globalised environment, and shows the commitment of France and Britain to remain leading aviation powers.”

BAE is already a leading force in unmanned combat aircraft, having spent a decade developing the technology. The pinnacle of the comany's work is Taranis, a stealthy combat aircaft demonstrator that was built to test new systems , flight controls and materials. It is also being used to show the potential for a drone - under the control of a human operator at a distant base - executing missions including bombing, target marking and reconnaissance.



The Tarannis drone


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Tarannis - named after the Celtic god of Thunder - first flew at a secret test range in August 2013. Earlier this year it completed another round of experimental flights, including operating in a stealthy configuration, making it virtually invisible to radar.

Fighter jet drones move closer as BAE and Dassault link up - Telegraph

@Gabriel92 lets see the best of what Britain and France have to offer the world
 
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If I had to pick between Taranis and Neuron, I'd pick:



Oh, f**k it!!! I can't choose they're all so awesome!


Ahahahhah.....yeah the X-47B might be hard to beat, but im sure our upcomng joint BAE/Dassault stealth supersonic drone will be more than a match for the best the U.S has to offer. :enjoy:
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@Gabriel92 .
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August 26, 2015 Neuron UCAV Conducts 12 Test Flights

ROME — The European Neuron UCAV technology demonstrator has undergone 12 test flights in Italy to try out its radar cross section and infrared signature, Italian partner Alenia Aermacchi said Tuesday.

The flights, which were carried out at the Italian Air Force’s Air Base at Decimomannu in Sardinia, used Eurofighters and ground radars to test the UCAV’s radar signature.

Test flights will now move to the Vidsel test range in Sweden, where the delivery of weapons from the Neuron’s weapon bay will be carried out. Test flights in France have already been conducted.

The Neuron program, which is designed to develop UCAV technologies, is led by Dassault Aviation and backed by Alenia Aermacchi, Saab, Airbus Defence and Space, Ruag, and HAI.

The British and French governments meanwhile signed a £120 million (US$189 million) deal last year to work on UCAV technologies together and France may yet transfer work it does on Neuron to a parallel program with the UK

 
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If Europeans unite in every field,sure we can. :D

True. Though if we had the size of the U.S we will surely more than match them in every field. its difficult for a single nation of say 50-60 million people like Britain and france to compete with a country of over 350million people. So the main diffrence is their size and budget since they can afford to spend on a wider variety of weapon system than we can.

But when it comes to tech, will say we are pretty much almost at par in what we focus on doing. Like your Rafale and our Typhoon got nothing on any U.S 4th generation fighter.

So yes we can pool our resources together to widen our weapons system, since technologically, only the U.S still has an edge over us.

However, sometimes you frenchies also backstab us brits. where is this our deal now? Dont tell me your Rafale took it as well?:(


Business News
BAE takes off after sealing Saudi Arabia Eurofighter deal

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MARK LEFTLY Wednesday 19 February 2014 11:54 GMT 1 comment

BAE Systems today announced it has finally agreed the pricing of a deal to sell Eurofighter Typhoon jets to Saudi Arabia after years of tortuous negotiations.

Shares in the defence giant jumped after it revealed the ends of talks over the 72 jets, which have hurt BAE’s last two sets of annual results, ahead of the release of tomorrow’s full-year figures.

Saudi Arabia had initially agreed to buy the jets in 2007 for more than £4.4 billion. But talks over changes to the terms of the so-called Salam deal proved fraught with pitfalls.


At a time when defence spending generally has been tight because of governments slashing budgets, BAE’s 2013 earnings per share would have been hit by 6p or 7p if negotiations had drifted into a fourth year, cutting hundreds of millions of pounds from the group’s operating profit. The business has had to reduce its full-year earnings expectations for the past two years as discussions which involved the governments of both countries dragged on.

However, BAE chief executive Ian King confirmed today that an “equitable outcome for all parties” had been reached and sources confirmed this would be reflected in annual results.

BAE said the terms were “broadly consistent” with the trading outlook previously given for last year and that cash settlement was expected to start “in the early part of [this year]”.

The timing of the resolution is welcome given that BAE’s talks over a £6 billion Eurofighter contract with the United Arab Emirates collapsed only two months ago.

This was seen as a blow for Britain given that Prime Minister David Cameron had personally intervened in an attempt to get a deal done, but King insisted that the failure would not “disadvantage” BAE — a claim seemingly substantiated by finally settling the issue in Saudi Arabia.

King hinted today that he was relieved finally to reach a deal with a country which is expected to issue more contracts over the next few years. “I am pleased that we have been able to conclude this negotiation which builds on our long-standing relationship with this much-valued customer,” he said.

Investors welcomed the news, as shares rose more than 4% in early trading before settling back to 442.4p, up 4.8p on the day.

City analysts also applauded the deal: Cantor Fitzgerald’s Andy Chambers said that the end of the talks “clearly has positive ramifications for ongoing earnings with Saudi revenues likely to continue to grow on a variety of additional contracts signed over the past 24 months”.

The jet is built by BAE with European aerospace giant Airbus and the Italian defence firm Finmeccanica.

The contract is good news for the company’s £1 billion share buyback programme, which was announced a year ago, with the full implementation requiring negotiations with Saudi Arabia to be completed.

BAE takes off after sealing Saudi Arabia Eurofighter deal | Business News | Business | London Evening Standard

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August 26, 2015 Neuron UCAV Conducts 12 Test Flights

ROME — The European Neuron UCAV technology demonstrator has undergone 12 test flights in Italy to try out its radar cross section and infrared signature, Italian partner Alenia Aermacchi said Tuesday.

The flights, which were carried out at the Italian Air Force’s Air Base at Decimomannu in Sardinia, used Eurofighters and ground radars to test the UCAV’s radar signature.

Test flights will now move to the Vidsel test range in Sweden, where the delivery of weapons from the Neuron’s weapon bay will be carried out. Test flights in France have already been conducted.

The Neuron program, which is designed to develop UCAV technologies, is led by Dassault Aviation and backed by Alenia Aermacchi, Saab, Airbus Defence and Space, Ruag, and HAI.

The British and French governments meanwhile signed a £120 million (US$189 million) deal last year to work on UCAV technologies together and France may yet transfer work it does on Neuron to a parallel program with the UK


Looks awesome.
@Gabriel92 which engines does your neuron use by the way?
 
@mike2000 is back

Does it surprise you ? When it comes to money,everybody is ready to backstabb the other. :lol:
If im not wrong it uses a Rolls Royce Turbomeca Adour mk951.
 
@mike2000 is back

Does it surprise you ? When it comes to money,everybody is ready to backstabb the other. :lol:
If im not wrong it uses a Rolls Royce Turbomeca Adour mk951.

Had a check, and yes we did win the saudi order(just for 72 jets though). They are already being built in England.

BAE Systems Powers Up First New-Build Saudi Hawk
Tony Osborne Dec 02, 2014

Hawk: BAE Systems
WARTON, U.K. – BAE Systems has begun systems tests on the first of 22 new Hawk jet trainers for the Royal Saudi Air Force (RSAF).

Engineers began testing the electrical, fuel and hydraulic systems of the aircraft – designated ST001 – in November. The aircraft is significant, as it is the first to be assembled by the company since 2010, and also the first to be produced in the newly reconstituted Hawk assembly line now located at Warton after it was moved from Brough, East Yorkshire, which resulted in the loss of 900 jobs at that facility.

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Company officials say there have been significant challenges in restarting the production line and also re-establishing a supply chain that had virtually dried up without orders for the Hawk following the completion of the U.K. Royal Air Force’s 28 Hawk T2s.

Some 60% of the Hawk is now manufactured at Warton, with the remaining 40% at Brough. Warton had previously been responsible only for flight testing the aircraft.

The order from Saudi in 2012, along with an order from Oman in late 2012, gave new impetus to Hawk production. The company is now targeting several Middle Eastern states for potential additional orders which could help to push the number of Hawks built from 998 to more than 1,000.

Phil Hodge, business development director for the Hawk at BAE Systems, said Qatar may be looking for a new jet trainer to replace its aging Alpha Jets. Kuwait – already a Hawk user – may also consider a new-generation trainer as it looks to replace its fleet of F/A-18 Hornets in the coming years. Qatar is also expected to announce the purchase of a new fighter to replace its small fleet of Mirage 2000s. It has already established a new flight training school flying the Pilatus PC-21. Hodge also said the company was submitting a new proposal to the Indian government for an additional batch of Hawks, which could go on to equip the Indian air force’s Surya Kiran aerobatic display team.

The new batch of RSAF Hawks – designated Mk.165s – are broadly similar to their British counterparts but differ with a new data link, a different radio system and an updated version of the Rolls-Royce Adour Mk.951 engine. The Saudi aircraft will also be capable of dropping and firing ordnance, unlike the British aircraft that simulate the process. ST001 is one of 15 of the Saudi aircraft currently on the production line. It will be mated with its wing section early next year and is expected to make a first flight around May 2015.

Fourteen of the 22 aircraft will be delivered to Saudi Arabia by December 2016.

In the meantime, the company is continuing deliveries of typhoons to the Royal saudi Airforce(RSAF) and is in the process of completing the last-ever Tranche 2 standard aircraft CS030.

The remaining 30 aircraft for the RSAF will be Tranche 3 aircraft. The company has also completed delivery of all the British and Saudi two-seat aircraft, with only a trio for the Royal Air Force of Oman to be delivered, unless more orders emerge.

Editor's note: The date of the Oman order and the number of remaining aircraft for the RSAF have been corrected above.
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As for Neuron engines, that's a good choice since rolls royce turbomeca is a proven engine. :tup: hipe tobsee more cooperation between our two coubtries , we need more more news like this one:

BAE share price: Joint venture with France's Nexter lands £150m British Army deal

Defence contractor to build main gun for British Army’s new tanks
by Kate Smith

Thursday, 02 Jul 2015, 14:38 BST

BAE Systems Plc’s (LON:BA) joint venture with France’s Nexter will build an advanced new weapon for the British Army’s next generation of armoured vehicles, the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) has said. The contract is worth £150 million.

BAE Systems’ share price has lost ground in today’s trading, having shed 0.74 percent to 453.80p as of 13:54 BST, and underperforming the benchmark FTSE 100 index which has climbed into positive territory. The defence contractor’s shares have added just under seven percent over the past year.
The MoD said in a statement yesterday that it had awarded a £150 million contract to CTA International, a joint venture between BAE Systems and Nexter, to supply a new cannon capability for the UK Armed Forces. The contract will supply 515 CT Cannons for fitting to the Scout SV and Warrior platforms, as well as initial spares, special tools, test equipment and some early training equipment.
“Since the joint venture’s formation in 1994, our aim has been to develop world-leading 40mm cased telescoped technology, Steve Fogg, BAE munitions managing director and CTAI board member, said, as quoted by the Telegraph. “This contract, which signals the commencement of full production scale output of the 40mm cannon system, represents a significant milestone on this journey and when incorporated on the UK vehicles, will provide a step change in the fire power capability for the British Army.”
The contract comes after last week, BAE won a £5.5 million contract to assist in controlling shipping movements in Portsmouth Harbour and the Eastern Solent, with the deal marking the latest development in the partnering agreement between the FTSE 100 group, the Royal Navy and the MoD to modernise HM Naval Base Portsmouth.
BAE share price: Joint venture with Nexter lands £150m British Army deal

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should combine the projects for a bigger better one.

would be nice if we worked with our European cousins more often on such projects like drones and missiles
 

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