Who has the strongest Land Forces in ME?

Gabriel92 said:

• They have the strongest and the most modern land forces compared to Turkey and the others.
• They have a strong defence industry.
• They have a massive reserve force.
• They have one of the most modern land forces.
• They have experience in fighting,since they fought many wars since their independence. (Conventional and not)
• They seem to be the most well trained.
• They have one of the region's most battle-ready armies.
• Even if Turkey is modernizing it's army which is good,it could never match the israeli's.
• How come Turkey's is strongest than the Israeli's ?

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Ok mate calm down, I just changed my vote to Israel. Happy now? Please everyone vote Israel for @Gabriel92

Israel without a shred of doubt.

They have defeated Arab armies multiple times their size in the past. These Arab armies had Soviet Weapons and tech comparable to American one and a mind boggling numerical superiority and still Israelis routed them.

Any major war for Israel will be an existential threat and their people will have no option to give all they can.

Israel also has cutting edge defense industry and no shortage of hardware thanks to Uncle Sam. There soldiers as already stated are battle hardened and tested. The have well established communication, command and control networks so no mistakes will be made by them and any tactic they decide on will be executed flawlessly.

I would any day take an experience, professional and modern army over twice their number.

Khalid Newazi said:

They didn't prepare to fight Hizbullah but yet you said that Israel are the most well trained. And I highly doubt that Hizbullah were better equipped than the Israeli soldiers.

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Well,they did many errors during that war such as :

-They planned for small skirmishes, not for a large-scale, conventional military campaign.
-They under estimated the enemy.
-Over-reliance on airpower was another strategic folly.
-Hezbollah was very well prepared and equipped. (They had many modern anti tank missiles,mortars etc. and were good in guerilla.)
It is hard to fight a guerilla,nobody disagrees.

But they take lessons after every war.

damm1t said:

Ok mate calm down, I just changed my vote to Israel. Happy now? Please everyone vote Israel for @Gabriel92

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Face reality bro.

Turkiye has a Quality and Iran has quantity.

Turkey easily

Followed by the Egyptians

Third is a tie between iran and israel, the israelis have the hardware the iranians the numbers



Taking on irregular forces can be a embarrassment israel found that out against hezbollah in 2006, saudis are having issues against houthis etc


Numbers matter in land war

Gabriel92 said:

Well,they did many errors during that war such as :

-They planned for small skirmishes, not for a large-scale, conventional military campaign.
-They under estimated the enemy.
-Over-reliance on airpower was another strategic folly.
-Hezbollah was very well prepared and equipped. (They had many modern anti tank missiles,mortars etc. and were good in guerilla.)
It is hard to fight a guerilla,nobody disagrees.

But they take lessons after every war.

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I am sorry but if your military is only prepared for a single type of warfare, then they aren't prepared well enough. Also, underestimating the enemy is a fault in Military intelligence, something that is very important at times of war. Over-relying on airpower points out that the land-forces lack the ability to do the job, thus further proving my point.

Also, I guess you forgot about Turkey fighting the Kurds separatists, thus, they themselves have battle experience.

Turkey, Egypt and at third Israel. The myth of Israel's invinicbility is the result of very clever information control.

As much as I would like to believe it to be Turkey in number 1, I would say it's a tie between Turkey & Israel.
Besides military power the Israeli's also politicians with massive balls.

Iran 3rd place.

The rest might have nice toys but they have a history of failures and lack of unity.

Israel and Turkey tied ( slight edge to Israel for its experience and Political class ). Even Iran comes very close due to sheer number and determination.

Technically Turkey is not in the middle east so that is why I voted for Israel. But if you compared Turkey vs. Israel then Turkey would be the clear choice any given day.

World Military Strength Comparison

Gabriel92 said:

Despite having a budget that is below Turkey's and Saudi's,

-They have a strong defence industry.
-They have a massive reserve force.
-They have one of the most modern land forces.
-They have experience in fighting,since they fought many wars since their independence. (Conventional and not)
-They seem to be the most well trained.
-They have one of the region's most battle-ready armies.

@500

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We have more reserve force, modern land forces, experince, well trained and most battle-ready army. Israel can't be compared with Turkish Land Force and Navy.

How could they be Turkey or Israel?

Egypt has more active personal and reserves, more tanks, APCs, IFVs, ATGMs, armoured cars, logistical vehicles, towed-artillery, self-propelled artillery, ballistic missiles, MRLS, helicopters and AA defense systems. Most of them are high/medium quality equipment.

They also have well established arms industries.

BLACKEAGLE said:

How could they be Turkey or Israel?

Egypt has more active personal and reserves, more tanks, APCs, IFVs, ATGMs, armoured cars, logistical vehicles, towed-artillery, self-propelled artillery, ballistic missiles, MRLS, helicopters and AA defense systems. Most of them are high/medium quality equipment.

They also have well established arms industries.

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Detail of that arm industries?

Let's compare tanks as they are the spearhead of any land force:

High quality tanks:

Egypt:

1,130 M1A2SEP/M1A1
34 T-80UK/T-80U

Turkey:

354 Leopard 2

Israel:

360 Merkava Mark IV
780 Merkava Mark III

Medium quality tanks:

Egypt:

1016 M60A3
700 M60A1

Turkey:

104 M60A1
753 M60A2
619 M60A3 TTS
170 M60T Sabra

Israel:

400 Merkava Mark II
180 Merkava Mark I Retired, to be sold or scrapped
1040 Magach 7 Retired, to be sold or scrapped
560 Magach 6 Retired, to be sold or scrapped

Low quality tanks:

Egypt:

500 T-62 Mark III
260 T-55 Ramses II
840 T-55 unknown future; either scrappage or upgrade to Ramses II standard.

Turkey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-55
619 M48 Patton A5T1
758 M48 Patton A5T2

Israel:

200 Magach 5 Retired, based on the American M48 Patton
350 Centurion In storage

Oublious said:

Detail of that arm industries?

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Read the first one in detail then read the second, you will find most of the Egyptian equipment either manufactured or upgraded in Egypt :

Military

Equipment of the modern Egyptian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turkey , as it has the size and the proper trained army to go with it

would of voted Israel if the air force was included but just by land forces its Turkey without a doubt

Egypt is a logistical nightmare , they might have the size and some good equipment but imagine the logistical problems
they will come across during an actual war.

Iran has a large army but its equipment is outdated