We are freedom fighters - Altaf Hussain

Why army has kicked off this whole RAW > india business now ? why PA allied with MQM in 2002 how come army as a institution allowed this knowing MQM had those raw connections than ? if the plan is to remove altaf than how would it help karachi in these dangerous times when the army is fighting insurgency in FATA and karachi. By removing altaf a leaderless MQM will split into pieces and who knows how many will join hands with extremists creating further chaos ...

Sheikh Rauf said:

sadly hindu refused to continue urdu just cuz it was written from right to left and used arabic farsi alphabets ... just 50 years ago you guys had gread urdu writers and spearks.. funny thing is you lost your treasure..
indian actors singers still know how to read and write
your Lata, kishor, mukesh, amitab, rashi, sheshi, raj kapoor raj kumar manymore cud write it too..
hindi was nothing till hindu fanatics took over and kill Gandhi.

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Something like 99% of bollywood songs are still written in Urdu. All of those old poetic gems of songs are in Urdu.

Urdu still has a huge impact on Indian culture, whethere they accept it or not.

coffee_cup said:

@Indians: Is it possible, that India completely stops spending hundreds of millions of dollars to spread terrorism in the neighborhood and instead spends half of that sum on some of the social issues she is having at home? And half on promoting the goodwill image that would have far better results in the end?

I know, it is almost impossible under the fanatics who are sitting in the govt and enjoy thumping majority support in the society, but still no harm in tossing an idea.

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for any such change of heart there should be a motivation or compulsion.
the motivation to destabilise Pakistan is more than the other way round and there is no compulsion to stop causing the problems since the 50s. the malnourished and unsanatised Indian population can wait or revel at the awesomeness of Brahmos , MARS probe and Tejas

GURU DUTT said:

miya khaan ye kya keh gaye aap ?

goya agar hamara is mualmlle se koi talluk nahi hai to apke watan e azeez ke honhar baar baar karachi me ho rahi katl o garath ke liye mere mulk ko kyon kusoorwaar sabit kerne me itni shiddat se duniya bhar me dhindhorra peet rahe hain ?

janab iltejja ye hai ki agar aapke mulk me jin logo per security & law and order ki jimmedaari ayat hoti hai unhone apna kaam poori mehnat aur shiddat se kiya hota to karachi me ye nasoor itna taqatwar hota hi nahi

per afsos to is baat ka hai hazarro masoom jaano ke qatl ke baad bhi aapki security establishment is katl o gharath ke wajoohat ka tayunn hi nahi ker payee hai usko rokna to barri door ki baat hai

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Janab aliya dhindhora pitnay or us mein shidat e nafsaniyat paida kerna kay mahir aap indian ho yakeen nahi aata to rozana apna khabarnama daikh liyay kejiye shayed hi koi din aisa ho jis mein aap zuban say Pakistan na ada hota ho..
chalain is bahanay napak zuban pay kuch Pak kalmat to atay hain..
garam hovaon kay bulbulay Pakistan per dal diyay jatay hain ,,,
kashmir ki jido jehad bhi Pakistani per..
Punjab mein sikhon ka Pakistani jhanda lehrana bhi Pakistan per..
mujhay to dar lagta hain aap ki abadi ki ziyaditi bhi Pakistaniyo per na dal di jaye kay har honay wala bacha Pakistaniyo ki waja say hota hai..
chalain aap dil khush ker laina or laga daina hum per yeah ilzam

naam badnam to aisay bhi hai ... aisay bhi sahi..
hum per ilzam to aisay bhi hai .. aisay bhi sahi..

coffee_cup said:

Is it possible, that India completely stops spending hundreds of millions of dollars to spread terrorism in the neighborhood and instead spends half of that sum on some of the social issues she is having at home? And half on promoting the goodwill image that would have far better results in the end?

I know, it is almost impossible under the fanatics who are sitting in the govt and enjoy thumping majority support in the society, but still no harm in tossing an idea.

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Of course it is possible

India Pakistan problems can be SOLVED in a DAY

Just agree to LOC as International Border ; NO Kashmir problem

We will become the best of friends

pak-marine said:

Why army has kicked off this whole RAW > india business now ? why PA allied with MQM in 2002 how come army as a institution allowed this knowing MQM had those raw connections than ? if the plan is to remove altaf than how would it help karachi in these dangerous times when the army is fighting insurgency in FATA and karachi. By removing altaf a leaderless MQM will split into pieces and who knows how many will join hands with extremists creating further chaos ...

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why why why

why PPP and PMLn not finsih the Karachi operation back then?
why why why
why Red Mosque administration is allowed to mock the APS victims and praise ISIS
why ASWJ is allowed to stage rallies in front of the parliament declaring shais kafir and promising their genocide
why Zardari is allowed to smuggle money out of the country
why those baloch terrorists are called brothers who stop buses and march people out and execute them on the road side?

why why why

coffee_cup said:

Something like 99% of bollywood songs are still written in Urdu. All of those old poetic gems of songs are in Urdu.

Urdu still has a huge impact on Indian culture, whethere they accept it or not.

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As I said earlier ; we dont read and write Urdu ;but we use Urdu words in Hindi

Urdu is an INTEGRAL Part of HINDI

Just as Kashmir is an Integral part of India

Irfan Baloch said:

did you see the London Met police raid on AH residence in London? the answers are there if you search the video
the cash is transferred via hundy not bank transactions silly. there were piles of notes accounted to few hundred thousand pounds found there where MQM had no way to explain their source.

BLA doesnt get wired money from Kandhar bank to their bank in Quetta do they. you think your "diplomats" along the border that naive?

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1.my video link not working

2. ok got your point that all such money is tranferred by hundi and hawalla no need to alaborate but question here is how does advanced british system never uncoverred and prosecuted it for so long

3.even if money is tranferrred by many links how AH was able to rule karachi for so long do you think MI6 or british goverments never new about it then why did they turned a blind eye and why dint pakistani establishemnt never raised this issue with britsih despite such a large pakistani diasporra in britain

4.who is responsible formantaining peace and law and order of karachi ?

5.was MQM never part of sucsessive goverments be it benazier bhutto , nawaz sharif or genral musharraf or zardaari or nawaz sharif goverment again ?

6.if MQM was part of so many goverments in past and all hub bul watan urdu speaker know it why did they supported MQM for so long and no hub bul watan urdu speaking pakistan ever raised a rebellion against MQM knowing its anty pakistan activities and why did worlds best intellegence agency the mighty all power full ISI was not able to control this sinister anty pakistani conspiracy in financial capital of pakistan

saeen ji is ghustakh ghulaam ko aapke jawaabon ka intezaar hai

fakhre mirpur said:

A leader of an ethnic political party in Karachi which ha been accused of ethnic killing of pashtun,baloch,sindhis and punjabis in karachi by rivals

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Ohhh in other words he is a scum.

Irfan Baloch said:

why why why

why PPP and PMLn not finsih the Karachi operation back then?
why why why
why Red Mosque administration is allowed to mock the APS victims and praise ISIS
why ASWJ is allowed to stage rallies in front of the parliament declaring shais kafir and promising their genocide
why Zardari is allowed to smuggle money out of the country
why those baloch terrorists are called brothers who stop buses and march people out and execute them on the road side?

why why why

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And besides we have to start the clean up from somewhere. And this is the right time!

The MQM logic is very strange.

The patient is already in ICU and they are demanding to know why the patients few decades ago were not operated.

They demand those patients from the past be operated first (all those of you "Back to future" fans, get your time machines out), before the current ICU patient can be operated.

WOW!

Stephen Cohen said:

As I said earlier ; we dont read and write Urdu ;but we use Urdu words in Hindi

Urdu is an INTEGRAL Part of HINDI

Just as Kashmir is an Integral part of India

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By adding the last sentence about Kashmir you have made your first statement very doubtfull.

It is like saying:

Water is liquid. Just like Vedic Indians had aeroplanes which could fly from one planet to the other.

One statement is a fact, the other is a belief which has nothing to do with the reality.

coffee_cup said:

By adding the last sentence about Kashmir you have made your first statement very doubtfull.

It is like saying:

Water is liquid. Just like Vedic Indians had aeroplanes which could fly from one planet to the other.

One statement is a fact, the other is a belief which has nothing to do with the reality.

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It is a matter of perception

You asked about how can we resolve our problems especially the root cause ie Kashmir

Secondly there was another little discussion going on about Urdu and Hindi in India

I just combined both the points

my grandfather and father gave up everything and migrated from calcutta. And by God i hate this man as much as India

GURU DUTT said:

1.my video link not working

2. ok got your point that all such money is tranferred by hundi and hawalla no need to alaborate but question here is how does advanced british system never uncoverred and prosecuted it for so long

3.even if money is tranferrred by many links how AH was able to rule karachi for so long do you think MI6 or british goverments never new about it then why did they turned a blind eye and why dint pakistani establishemnt never raised this issue with britsih despite such a large pakistani diasporra in britain

4.who is responsible formantaining peace and law and order of karachi ?

5.was MQM never part of sucsessive goverments be it benazier bhutto , nawaz sharif or genral musharraf or zardaari or nawaz sharif goverment again ?

6.if MQM was part of so many goverments in past and all hub bul watan urdu speaker know it why did they supported MQM for so long and no hub bul watan urdu speaking pakistan ever raised a rebellion against MQM knowing its anty pakistan activities and why did worlds best intellegence agency the mighty all power full ISI was not able to control this sinister anty pakistani conspiracy in financial capital of pakistan

saeen ji is ghustakh ghulaam ko aapke jawaabon ka intezaar hai

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i have same questions thanks

Stephen Cohen said:

It is a matter of perception

You asked about how can we resolve our problems especially the root cause ie Kashmir

Secondly there was another little discussion going on about Urdu and Hindi in India

I just combined both the points

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No I asked, whether it was possible that India stops spending hundreds of millions of dollars to spread terrorism in the neighborhood and instead starts spending it on someting positive such as solving social issues at home + some of this money on promoting her image.

And that would have far better results in the end than killing innocents via terrorism.

The_Sidewinder said:

Who is Altaf Hussain???

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Exactly..Is he next Zaid Hamid or what??