Pakistan expresses concern at plight of Myanmar's Rohingya Muslims

OrionHunter said:

Stop talking like a kid! You want another insurgency to start in South Asia? As experienced in Pakistan, most will start biting the hands that fed it and turn upon their masters like what the TTP are doing. Raising and supporting terrorists is a bad idea.

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Wrong example. Which commander of TTP was ISI's asset? Name at least one.
Apart from Ilyas Kashmiri and a bunch of small groups, which have been eliminated long ago, TTP had no connection with PA/ISI. TTP was itself born in 2004.

tested said:

Bangladesh is also keen on connecting with Myanmar.

We are building many many projects - connecting India, Bangladesh, Myanmar and China with a highway.
Extending our infrastructural linkages all the way to Thailand so that we can have easy movement of goods from Japan and Vietnam to India.

Japan is the most invested country in this entire scheme.

Why do you think they aren't giving a crap about the Rohingyas.

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How about banning INDIA-AFGH trade deal?
How about banning the Visas to Indian visiting Nankana? How are you going to explain this to the Punjabis living in India?

saadee said:

How about banning INDIA-AFGH trade deal?
How about banning the Visas to Indian visiting Nankana? How are you going to explain this to the Punjabis living in India?

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Do you take our Punjabis to be dumb?

No one has to explain anything. If Pakistan refuses visas to pilgrims, it will just engender hatred amongst them for Pakistan.

As I said, all of us are way to invested in Myanmar to allow anyone to destabilize that country.

And if India or China don't want Myanmar to be damaged, the entire Middle Eastern countries put together won't be able to put a scratch on Myanmar. The Myanmarese military is supplied almost completely by China and India.

Indian military has operated on Myanmar soil in joint operations. That is the kind of comfort we share with them.

saadee said:

How about banning INDIA-AFGH trade deal?
How about banning the Visas to Indian visiting Nankana? How are you going to explain this to the Punjabis living in India?

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India-Afg trade deal exists despite Pakistan blocking the road route. So how are you gonna ban it.
Sikhs going to Nankana is the only major piece of tourist visits you get right now. That's the only one thing you can show to other foreigners saying Pakistan is safe. Ban that and no one else too will be interested!

And how is this anyways related to Pakistan's concern on Rohingyas in Myanmar!

Sheikh Rauf said:

I agree with the idea that Pakistan sud bring them to Pakistan if not permenant atleast allow them to work in Pak and live.. they are our muslims brothers and sisters we sud help them to settled in Pak..

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Start with this lot first.

tested said:

Don't explain anything to him.
He is a jamaati. His kind does not understand these things like logic. They blindly follow Pakistan.

Fortunately his kind is being systematically hunted in Bangladesh.

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no one follows no one just to let you know each and every country and people have their own concerns ... if Jamaati follows Pakistan blindly . then i wont be surprise if RSS is following Hitler. the same way they kill jews the same technique india and indian army using against minorities.

tested said:

Do you take our Punjabis to be dumb?

No one has to explain anything. If Pakistan refuses visas to pilgrims, it will just engender hatred amongst them for Pakistan.

As I said, all of us are way to invested in Myanmar to allow anyone to destabilize that country.

And if India or China don't want Myanmar to be damaged, the entire Middle Eastern countries put together won't be able to put a scratch on Myanmar. The Myanmarese military is supplied almost completely by China and India.

Indian military has operated on Myanmar soil in joint operations. That is the kind of comfort we share with them.

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No one has to explain anything? It is O.K for Burmese to kill Muslims in Burma but it is not O.K for Pakistan for banning your citizens? Do you think whatever you are claiming is right? With the proper reasoning, Indian Punjabis will surely ask you Why. You are trying to protect your investment and let the Burmese kill as many Muslims as they can. Do you think China will lose it best ally in South Asian region over Burmese?

Bang Galore said:

Start with this lot first.

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if its up to me i would not wait another day...
but why you are so concern its a matter of muslims and between Pak and Bangladesh... why dont you keep your minorities safe from redical indian army and Rss whos aim to clean indian from minorities.

Psychic said:

Wrong example. Which commander of TTP was ISI's asset? Name at least one.
Apart from Ilyas Kashmiri and a bunch of small groups, which have been eliminated long ago, TTP had no connection with PA/ISI. TTP was itself born in 2004.

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Doesn't matter because Pakistan created the enabling environment for such a group to exist. It's why the distinction between good & bad terr good example would be LeT which acts pretty much like a state actor & does not attack within Pakistan but the pool that it helps create & recruits from is also dipped into by other organisations which have no such limitations.

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Bang Galore said:

Doesn't matter because Pakistan created the enabling environment for such a group to exist. It's why the distinction between good & bad terr good example would be LeT which acts pretty much like a state actor & does not attack within Pakistan but the pool that it helps create & recruits from is also dipped into by other organisations which have no such limitations.

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Who created them is what really matters. When they were Mujahideens then they were everybody's favorite. It was not Pakistan who created them

Sheikh Rauf said:

if its up to me i would not wait another day...
but why you are so concern its a matter of muslims and between Pak and Bangladesh... why dont you keep your minorities safe from redical indian army and Rss whos aim to clean indian from minorities.

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I referred to your post which suggested that Pakistan accept these people, a pointing out of those Pakistanis who have been punished terribly for choosing Pakistan is in order to show how absurd the supposed love for the Rohingya is. If you didn't care for the people who sacrificed everything & moved to "Pakistan" (east) because they believed in the promise of Pakistan, there is not much credibility left for any of your other sympathies.

You would be hard pressed to find anything similar in India no matter your silly comparisons. India has a small number of Rohingya refugees themselves who have been allowed to stay here, something that you have not done. Talk is cheap.

saadee said:

This is what Bangladesh needs to do. Provide us your Airbases and let the PAF bomb the F out of these Burmese.

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If Khaleda was in power, we might have done something for the Rohingyas, not something that you just mentioned but training resistance movements, etc .

Indian try to put their nose every where.... it is not Indians problem what our FO said about 3rd country

saadee said:

No one has to explain anything? It is O.K for Burmese to kill Muslims in Burma but it is not O.K for Pakistan for banning your citizens? Do you think whatever you are claiming is right? With the proper reasoning, Indian Punjabis will surely ask you Why. You are trying to protect your investment and let the Burmese kill as many Muslims as they can.

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I have not for a second implied that Pakistan should issue visas to pilgrims if Pakistan does not want to. This is Pakistan's sovereign right to decide who enters its territory and who doesn't.

I have only said that you must consider our Punjabis stupid. Because no one needs to explain anything to them. If Pakistan denies visa to them, they will hate Pakistan. Nothing more, nothing less.
However whether or not the pilgrims start hating Pakistan does not affect your or Pakistan's health in any way.

Do you think China will lose it best ally in South Asian region over Burmese?

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As far as Myanmar is concerned. I have already made that clear.

Neither us nor China is going to allow anyone to destabilize Myanmar. We are both very very large countries with very very large militaries.

If either of us don't want Myanmar to be damaged by an external force, be assured that no one would be able to damage Myanmar.

We - India, China, Bangladesh, Thailand, Japan - have a lot of plans going on for Myanmar. We are creating an East Asian industrial and goods corridor. Heck the ADB is the second largest investor after JICA. None of us are going to destabilize that.

If Pakistan and Pakistanis find the problem of Rohingyas an issue, Pakistan is absolutely free to give them refuge in Pakistan. This would be a win-win situation for all concerned and particularly a happy situation for Rohingyas.

OrionHunter said:

Stop talking like a kid! You want another insurgency to start in South Asia? As experienced in Pakistan, most will start biting the hands that fed it and turn upon their masters like what the TTP are doing. Raising and supporting terrorists is a bad idea.

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Sorry but someone needs to stand up against the Burmese government, they not only have problems with Rohingyas but also Karen and Kachin people. They have problems with many ethnicity and act like an Apartheid state. And if we can't support them then they will look for support from elsewhere, thus TTP, ISIS and Al-Qaeda might try to develop bases there.

ZooZoo said:

Never try that.. India trained LTTE, we lost our PM.. Pakistan trained terrorist they became failed state... If you do so, Burma will kick Bangladesh very bad and after sometime These Rohingyas will blow up Bangaldesh...

Just because they are Mulsim , you can't interfere in Burmese internal matters.... If you do so, Burmese will do the same.. And I don't think BD can afford any war..

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Rakhine is Bangladesh, since the Burmese government have said that Rohingyas are Bangladeshis and Rakhine belongs to Rohingyas. Thus Rakhine is Bangladesh.

Our Military is quite well trained, even our BGB are better trained than the Burmese military. Not to forget to mention that Burma is fighting many other ethnicity in the region.

And LTTE were Tamils, it was quite stupid to train them by an Indian government, given the Tamil population in India and a Tamil separation movement could have been started by them. And TTP were not trained by Pakistan, why would they train someone who wants to divide the country. Afghan Taliban =/= Pakistan Taliban.

Shan-e-ibrahim said:

Bandhu tum marwaoge humko. We are already facing enough troubles. May be we can give some support to you and you can train these people.

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That's what I was talking about. Not a full-scale war. Pakistan can support Bangladesh in intelligence gathering, help train Rohingyas but not get directly involved. And since there have been rumours about TTP trying to base itself in Rakhine, I say it concerns both Bangladesh and Pakistan.