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Shah Jahan built Mumtaz Mahal Mausoleum in honor of his wife Mumtaz Mahal.

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''Mumtaz Mahal'' (1 September 1593 -17 June 1631) meaning "the chosen one of the palace") was a Mughal Empress and chief consort of emperor Shah Jahan. The Taj Mahal in Agra was constructed by her husband as her final resting place.
Interesting. I was aware that Shah Jahan built the palace in honor of his wife but did not know that the Taj was originally from Mumtaz.

Goes to show how original words/meanings can be butchered and completely altered over time.
 
Don't get mad Muslims ruled you bharatis for centuries.

Next time you take pride in the Taj Mahal, remember it was the result of centuries of Muslim rule over bharat mata.
FOR CENTURIES? Next time some random Pakistani says Muslims ruled for 1000 years, will u come in and shut him up on my invitation? Say YES or NO? Will tag u everytime.
 
Interesting. I was aware that Shah Jahan built the palace in honor of his wife but did not know that the Taj was originally from Mumtaz. Goes to show how original words/meanings can be butchered and completely altered over time.

In Urdu, it would have been Muqbarah e Mumtaz Mahal (Mumtaz Mahal Mausoleum) but local population speaking Khari Boli changed Mumtaz to Mumtaj and then to just Taj.
 
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I dont understand where the Khokars, who were very powerful in medieval times and appear to be numerous, have disappeared to?......I do not hear much about Khokars in the history after Jasrath. Any idea why they lost power and what is their history during reign of Mughals?
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Probably after Jasrath Khokhar, no new leader was born among them. Jasrath Khokhar mazhar is in Kurre, near Chenab river in Gujrat district. Sheikha Khokhar was from village Thakkar, Mandi Bahauddin. Their descendent still live there as was reported by Gujrat settlement report.

Mythical origins of khokhar chuhras/christian is also explained here, sound rediculous.

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FOR CENTURIES? Next time some random Pakistani says Muslims ruled for 1000 years, will u come in and shut him up on my invitation? Say YES or NO? Will tag u everytime.
So you agree that Muslims DID rule india (something you were denying in your original post) and left a legacy that remains to this day?
 
So you agree that Muslims DID rule india (something you were denying in your original post) and left a legacy that remains to this day?
I stick to the statement which even ur iconic historians repeat. India was ruled by invaders who supposed to be muslims. These invaders raped the local muslims more than any other religious sect and thats very well documented. These unfortunate locals were raped and tormented to such an extent and for so many times that they lost their senses to start associating and accept their invaders and rapists as their true ancestors. Who knows? Maybe true. Outcome of rape activity.

Ask Hassan Nisar. Hes one guy whome biggest of intelluects of Pakistan cant deny or argue in case of content and logic. Hope someone irrelevant like u wont try doing it :)
 
Most pathans in India are fake, high caste rajputs and brahmins converts started to claim being pathans.

In bollywood Amir, Salman and Saif are real pathan decendents. Sharukh is fake pathan, he is proud of his father side being pathan but they were awans actually with khan last name. His cousin in Pakistan was surprised why he claim to be pathan. His mother is south indian. Dilip is another fake pathan, but I am not sure if he claim it or not. He was awan also.

that's a sweeping generalization...again as I said it means nothing these days. Just like people arguing if their ancestors were forced converts, raped converts or voluntary converts at the hands of the mugals etc. WHat are you going to do? Claim reparations from Mongolia Turkey Greece or India for injustice done to your twelve generations+ past ancestor whom you don't even know the name of? I find it quite amusing when people claim things like loyalty because they have gurrkha genes, courage because they have Rajput genes, intelligence because they Brahmin genes, sealegs because they have Nordic genes etc...
 
that's a sweeping generalization...again as I said it means nothing these days. Just like people arguing if their ancestors were forced converts, raped converts or voluntary converts at the hands of the mugals etc. WHat are you going to do? Claim reparations from Mongolia Turkey Greece or India for injustice done to your twelve generations+ past ancestor whom you don't even know the name of? I find it quite amusing when people claim things like loyalty because they have gurrkha genes, courage because they have Rajput genes, intelligence because they Brahmin genes, sealegs because they have Nordic genes etc...

Be proud you got Tiger Genes:tup:
 
I stick to the statement which even ur iconic historians repeat. India was ruled by invaders who supposed to be muslims. These invaders raped the local muslims more than any other religious sect and thats very well documented. These unfortunate locals were raped and tormented to such an extent and for so many times that they lost their senses to start associating and accept their invaders and rapists as their true ancestors. Who knows? Maybe true. Outcome of rape activity.

Ask Hassan Nisar. Hes one guy whome biggest of intelluects of Pakistan cant deny or argue in case of content and logic. Hope someone irrelevant like u wont try doing it :)
I'm glad you admit that Muslims invaders ruled india for centuries and that Delhi (india's capital today) was established by Islamic invaders and that Taj Mahal which indians take pride in was built by Muslim invaders and that hindu women were concubines of Muslim invaders.

 
Ask Hassan Nisar. Hes one guy whome biggest of intelluects of Pakistan cant deny or argue in case of content and logic. Hope someone irrelevant like u wont try doing it :)
Argument from authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Argument from authority, also authoritative argument and appeal to authority, is a common form of argument which leads to a logical fallacy when used in argumentative reasoning.[1]

In informal reasoning, the appeal to authority is a form of argument attempting to establish a statistical syllogism.[2] The appeal to authority relies on an argument of the form:[3]

A is an authority on a particular topic
A says something about that topic
A is probably correct
 
It is "Mumtaz Mahal" which shortened to Taj Mahal. Our eastern neighbors pronounce Z as J and J as Z. So Mumtaz turned into Mumtaj and then shortened to Taj. My friend Ejaz was called Ezaj while my Indian professor in university called Zero as Jero. It was hilarious !
sad but actually true

Probably after Jasrath Khokhar, no new leader was born among them. Jasrath Khokhar mazhar is in Kurre, near Chenab river in Gujrat district. Sheikha Khokhar was from village Thakkar, Mandi Bahauddin. Their descendent still live there as was reported by Gujrat settlement report.

Mythical origins of khokhar chuhras/christian is also explained here, sound rediculous.

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It seems the Khokhars were the most powerful tribe of Punjab at one point. Indeed, It's a mystery what happened to them.
 
So you agree that Muslims DID rule india (something you were denying in your original post) and left a legacy that remains to this day?
who can deny this .. first Delhi Sultnate and then Mughals ruled India for few centuries.

I'm glad you admit that Muslims invaders ruled india for centuries and that Delhi (india's capital today) was established by Islamic invaders and that Taj Mahal which indians take pride in was built by Muslim invaders and that hindu women were concubines of Muslim invaders.

and the resultant are modern pakistanis !
 
and the resultant are modern pakistanis !


I don't think so since most of those hindu concubines were from central india. Which is why today millions of indians claim Mughal ancestry and have last names like Mirza.
 

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