Dialogue Pakistan,India And Afghanistan - 30 october 2014 (ARY News)

An interesting debate !


@Oscar @Horus @HRK @Secur @Bratva @Hyperion @Jungibaaz @nangyale @Abu Zolfiqar @PWFI @Khan_patriot @Akheilos @JonAsad @Jaanbaz @EyanKhan @farhan_9909 @Donatello @Sher Malang !

Armstrong said:

An interesting debate !

@Oscar @Horus @HRK @Secur @Bratva @Hyperion @Jungibaaz @nangyale @Abu Zolfiqar @PWFI @Khan_patriot @Akheilos @JonAsad @Jaanbaz @EyanKhan @farhan_9909 @Donatello @Sher Malang !

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saw it last week

same old wine in a not even new bottle

saleh exists on earth to rant and rave about the ISI....its in his genes.

cant blame him - considering that it was Pakistan/ISI that destroyed his career and made him irrelevant....from a purely northern alliance/puppet of panjshiri perspective he parrots the lines i'd only EXPECT him to

Abu Zolfiqar said:

saw it last week

same old wine in a not even new bottle

saleh exists on earth to rant and rave about the ISI....its in his genes.

cant blame him - considering that it was Pakistan/ISI that destroyed his career and made him irrelevant

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It was posted today; how did you see it last week ?

But yes you're right about him !

Armstrong said:

It was posted today; how did you see it last week ?

But yes you're right about him !

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the video was uploaded this week maybe

the event took place last week....saw it elsewhere

Abu Zolfiqar said:

the video was uploaded this week maybe

the event took place last week....saw it elsewhere

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But its a good video; Mani Shankar Aiyar seems level headed whereas that other Swammi fellow has issues !

On the Afghan side one of the guests too seemed level headed whereas Saleh has some deep....deep issues; you know the more I'm exposed to these things the more I realize that maybe what you guys say about the Farsibans not liking Pakistan at all is more true than I previously thought - What is their issue really ?

What is their problem in life?

Armstrong said:

But its a good video; Mani Shankar Aiyar seems level headed whereas that other Swammi fellow has issues !

On the Afghan side one of the guests too seemed level headed whereas Saleh has some deep....deep issues; you know the more I'm exposed to these things the more I realize that maybe what you guys say about the Farsibans not liking Pakistan at all is more true than I previously thought - What is their issue really ?

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Armstrong said:

But its a good video; Mani Shankar Aiyar seems level headed whereas that other Swammi fellow has issues !

On the Afghan side one of the guests too seemed level headed whereas Saleh has some deep....deep issues; you know the more I'm exposed to these things the more I realize that maybe what you guys say about the Farsibans not liking Pakistan at all is more true than I previously thought - What is their issue really ?

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its not about farsiwans at all.....we share a lot in common with non-Pashtuns of Afghanistan in the linguistic and cultural sense. It's the political ideology of Northern alliance warlords and their cohorts -- not to mention elements in india who will happily wag their tales and support literally anyone that takes an anti-Pakistan stance (be it the state, or crucial organs like the army, the spooks)

Saleh does a huge injustice to Afghanistan - actually, by placing all the blame squarely on us.....his country has issues which only Afghans can solve. Under his watch as spy chief - violence was surging in Afghanistan; ANA "green on blue" attacks were high, dessertion rates in intelligence and army were/are high, drug barons were still having close ties to the government - which obviously altered the loyalties of Afghan bureaucrats and essentially compromised them (Ahmed Karzai anyone?)

i noticed that Saleh gets visibly angry when he is reminded that taleban still have broad support in Afghanistan...it's a reality he just refuses to digest. He also has no issue blaming Pakistan for interference but never talks about indian or iranian or american interference in Afghan affairs.

i can see why he has no career anymore, and therefore is reduced to earning a paltry income by joining panels and debates to spread lies on PA/ISI etc.


as for Swami - i wouldnt waste a minute on him....when i first saw him on youtube i thought he was an indian comedian of saffron colours and not even a serious person.

Donatello said:

What is their problem in life?

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All failed to address public issues. Blame game etc etc

HAIDER said:

All failed to address public issues. Blame game etc etc

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The Pakistani side was a bit better on that front as was Aiyar and one of the Afghan guests !

Donatello said:

What is their problem in life?

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friends with too many heroin dealers....exposure to too much poppy

Armstrong said:

The Pakistani side was a bit better on that front as was Aiyar and one of the Afghan guests !

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Unfortunately they been digging history , what India started the mistrust in 71, provide huge trust deficit . India is still defending it meddling in East Pakistan and call it legit . Which creating more problem

Pak-Afg issue can only be solved by these two countries alone. Indian trying to meddle in these issues is going to back fire. Pakistan learned the tricks of interfering in it neighbours affairs from India. It was India which supported cross border terrorism in East Pakistan. When Pakistanis do it its different? India should stay away from Afghanistan & Pakistan issue. Because India is not ready to play any positive role. For Indian government Afghanistan is nothing but a useful client used to support anti Pakistan elements in Afghanistan.

Jaanbaz said:

Pak-Afg issue can only be solved by these two countries alone. Indian trying to meddle in these issues is going to back fire. Pakistan learned the tricks of interfering in it neighbours affairs from India. It was India which supported cross border terrorism in East Pakistan. When Pakistanis do it its different? India should stay away from Afghanistan & Pakistan issue. Because India is not ready to play any positive role. For Indian government Afghanistan is nothing but a useful client used to support anti Pakistan elements in Afghanistan.

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Our ties with Afghanistan goes back a long way, Afghan students are studying in Universities in India and we have given much aid to the country and have economic interests there in key energy deals.

It is Pakistan that aligned itself with the primitive Wahabi Taliban along with their Saudi and UAE brothers and India, Iran and Russia backing the NA.

The world knows ISI uses proxies such as the Haqqani network and others to attack Indian interests in Afghanistan but now the game has changed and India will be pro-active in it's dealings with state backers of terror.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2bf58d30-5b3a-11e4-b68a-00144feab7de.html#axzz3HiKid4kb

People should watch this documentary

Yeti said:

Our ties with Afghanistan goes back a long way, Afghan students are studying in Universities in India and we have given much aid to the country and have economic interests there in key energy deals.

It is Pakistan that aligned itself with the primitive Wahabi Taliban along with their Saudi and UAE brothers and India, Iran and Russia backing the NA.

The world knows ISI uses proxies such as the Haqqani network and others to attack Indian interests in Afghanistan but now the game has changed and India will be pro-active in it's dealings with state backers of terror.

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lol @ India doing squat in Afghanistan. Give it 1 year, and the Taliban will run the show. The Tajik NA regime is already on the downfall. Hopefully, the Pashtuns in Afghanistan will grow some balls and run their own country without interference from Hindus and Tajiks.

RazPaK said:

lol @ India doing squat in Afghanistan. Give it 1 year, and the Taliban will run the show. The Tajik NA regime is already on the downfall. Hopefully, the Pashtuns in Afghanistan will grow some balls and run their own country without interference from Hindus and Tajiks.

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But the Afghanis fire mortar shells on you as do the Iranians Pakistan can only have wet dreams but the reality is your bapa USA still drones you on a almost daily basis and you can't do shit about it but beg more paisa from the IMF

Militants attack Pakistani post near Afghan border - Washington Times


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