Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

Had to laugh when i read "Deep Strike and SEAD" missions...

fatman17 said:

plus Mi-35 is multi-role. it can insert / drop special forces.

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Even west is going for their own NG version of Mi-35 but with stealth features and some inspiration from Ka-50/52 rotars.



Sikorsky S-97 RAIDER™ Helicopter - The Next Big Thing In Army Aviation

Basel said:

Even west is going for their own NG version of Mi-35 but with stealth features and some inspiration from Ka-50/52 rotars.

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Sikorsky S-97 RAIDER™ Helicopter - The Next Big Thing In Army Aviation

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Except that S-97 can not performe direct high intensity firefights like Mi-35 could.

SRBM2 said:

Except that S-97 can not performe direct high intensity firefights like Mi-35 could.

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It can do that but I think it can not carry enough weapons load like Mi-35s, but it has very low RCS with low noise of rotors which will allow it do mission well if in good and well trained hands.

Basel said:

It can do that but I think it can not carry enough weapons load like Mi-35s, but it has very low RCS with low noise of rotors which will allow it do mission well if in good and well trained hands.

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Without having armor you will not be capable or suited to the slightest to participate in high intense combats. High intense combats include Anti Aircraft weaponary and plattforms, and having no armor will disquilify you from SEAD and CAS missions automatically.

SRBM2 said:

Without having armor you will not be capable or suited to the slightest to participate in high intense combats. High intense combats include Anti Aircraft weaponary and plattforms, and having no armor will disquilify you from SEAD and CAS missions automatically.

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Helicopter are not used for SEAD and it depand what kind of CAS is needed or available and how to utilize it with Hell Fire 2 missiles on board it can remain at safe distance and hit armor but its not its primary job, it will be mostly used for armed recce, high altitude ops, troops armed insertions, spec ops etc. remember it is fastest helicopter in terms of speed and has low RCS and IR signature. It will be good asset (if available) for Pakistan Army as they need helicopters in previously mentioned roles.

Basel said:

Helicopter are not used for SEAD and it depand what kind of CAS is needed or available and how to utilize it with Hell Fire 2 missiles on board it can remain at safe distance and hit armor but its not its primary job, it will be mostly used for armed recce, high altitude ops, troops armed insertions, spec ops etc. remember it is fastest helicopter in terms of speed and has low RCS and IR signature. It will be good asset (if available) for Pakistan Army as they need helicopters in previously mentioned roles.

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It just can not and will never be used for high intense combat that would contradict with "recon" missions and its purpose it was build for. You don't build mortars and then use them for frontline direct fire against enemies, they have to performe in their boundaries to be used effectivley. And Helicopters do performe SEAD missions in some cases but usually need HARM weapons.
About IR/RCS signature so far can only be speculated there quite a few helicopters that have lowered RCS and all major helicopter plattforms operating at front line have RAM painting, not to mention that RCS is only to certain degree relevant on helicopters since NoE flight already renders most radars useless or decreases their capability to detect helicopters greatly and even in direct visual contact most pulse doppler radars are filtering the reflected radar waves from the helicopter as clutter from trees and other obstacles.
Excuse my rather soberness as long i don't see it's final form with all bits and bolts added to it so it can be used for actual military missions.

Turkish Land Forces introduced T129 Atak-A copters entered into inventory.

Nice pictures.
What engine filters does it use, because it does not seem to be vortex filters?

Guyssss..!! any updates regarding Russian Mi-35 Attack Heli's deal with Pakistan...??

Cockpit view.

Sinan said:

Cockpit view.

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cant get any better. super and sleak

Irfan Baloch said:

cant get any better. super ans sleak

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What does your Cobra riding Taliban eating friend say about this bad boy?