India plans to upgrade T-90 Main Battle Tank

Just for you DAZZLER

its in your face

Mountain of ARMOUR

Dear Russia with friends like you, who needs allies. The way you milk Indian, you will make us bankrupt. I guess you love helping China.

Storm Force said:

Just for you DAZZLER

its in your face

Mountain of ARMOUR

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So,,, what does this video prove? Did it propose solutions to any shortcomings in t-90S for india? NO IT DOES NOT !

It is an exercise PR video damn...! Kid

Dazzler said:

few facts, more fantasies. Russians have been milking Indians on t-90 big time. Algerian t-90s had auto tracker from the word go, why not indians? there are other unpleasing issues too like the never ending night blindness and TI integration.

More later..

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What is it with you pakistanis and mindless ranting? Do you believe that praising inferior products like Khalid ( Based on MBT 2000, a model rejected by PLA ) and JF 17 on internet would give magical properties to said weapons?

The rant of night blindness is pathetic trolling attempt, given the fact that today 100% of Indian Armor is night vision capable, and this situation has been there for at least three years. There was a thread posted on this very forum when India finished fitting it's T-72's ( India's third tier tank ) with night vision equipment, in which you too participated. This degree of intellectual dishonesty would be shocking, if it is not coming from pakistanis.

Listen if dazzler thinks their poor little military with a tiny military budget of 7 billion per year has better armour than India which spends 40 billion ie nearly six Times their amt.then let him.

Bury your head in the sand time

They upgrade fifty year old tanks and call them modern

We license build brand new tanks both Russian and indengious Indian.

They can't buy new tanks as they have no money.

They have to upgrade vintage t59.

For the record the t59 is a decade older than our t72.

The t72 is the oldest and least capable of our fleet of tanks

Storm Force said:

Listen if dazzler thinks their poor little military with a tiny military budget of 7 billion per year has better armour than India which spends 40 billion ie nearly six Times their amt.then let him.

Bury your head in the sand time

They upgrade fifty year old tanks and call them modern

We license build brand new tanks both Russian and indengious Indian.

They can't buy new tanks as they have no money.

They have to upgrade vintage t59.

For the record the t59 is a decade older than our t72.

The t72 is the oldest and least capable of our fleet of tanks

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you are too dumb to deserve my reply.

anonymus said:

What is it with you pakistanis and mindless ranting? Do you believe that praising inferior products like Khalid ( Based on MBT 2000, a model rejected by PLA ) and JF 17 on internet would give magical properties to said weapons?

The rant of night blindness is pathetic trolling attempt, given the fact that today 100% of Indian Armor is night vision capable, and this situation has been there for at least three years. There was a thread posted on this very forum when India finished fitting it's T-72's ( India's third tier tank ) with night vision equipment, in which you too participated. This degree of intellectual dishonesty would be shocking, if it is not coming from pakistanis.

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it is a facf that your army is in a pathetic shape..

it is a fact that weapon procurement and manufacturing is even worse. Problem is not with us, but with general arrogant attitude of some of yiu forum lurkers who dont have a slightest of ideas what i am even talking about.

Read the shortcomings of t90 in IA, there are other users of t90 why dont they have the sane issues? T90 cannot even fire a basic bm-42 type apfsds shell, reason? ballistic computer not compatible with a supposedly russian round. Dont you see where the problem is? After 11 years of weapon procurement, now IA realises the ammo is not only insufficient, but indigenous attempts to make one are going down the drain and guns being exploded due to poorly made propellant for OFB rounds.

The never ending streak continues when IA realises their t90 lacks an AC, after 11 years, it still lack AC, BMS, datalink and panoramic vision and dont even talk about hunter killer mode which is considered vital in modern battle ground.
Lastly, i am discussing the problems, both self created by IA and milking by Russians. IF you want to include pakistani mbts into equation, it would be a bad idea.

suit yourself

How many t90 in service.globally .

5000+


How many junk al khlids in service globally 300 in Pakistan only

I rest my case

Storm Force said:

How many t90 in service.globally .

5000+


How many junk al khlids in service globally 300 in Pakistan only

I rest my case

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goodness!

you think you had a case??

Dazzled dazzler

You stick to your t59 upgrades and budget al khlids

Will stick license building t90 and arjuns India version if the German leopard heavey tanks

I know which I would rather have

Storm Force said:

Dazzled dazzler

You stick to your t59 upgrades and budget al khlids

Will stick license building t90 and arjuns India version if the German leopard heavey tanks

I know which I would rather have

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Stick to gun blowing t-72s, with dud sub standard shells to fire, they surely will blow many of their own turrets

Thats made up bull crap. Dazzler

My vedio proved your talking garbage.tanks moving fine loved the arjun look in the desert

One tank blew up does not mean the other 3500 will blow up.

Heck I herd you Pakistanis can't even afford to run all your armour you have funds for fuel due to no money

@Storm Force

My vedio proved your talking garbage.tanks moving fine loved the arjun look in the desert

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The irony is, your video proved NOTHING!
so, as per your analogy, a moving tank is a fine tank, regardless of whether it has a fire control or not, thermal vision/ image intensifier or not, engine is below par, gun and ammunition is way beyond standard, inappropriate armour etc but IA operates it so it must be fine. Bull

One tank blew up does not mean the other 3500 will blow up.

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More than a 100 blew up, and the problem still persists, there is no suitable ammo for t72's gun apart of the old bm-42 or its indian clone AMK-339, both of which are obsolete. Reason is poor metallurgy and gun chamber pressure is not high enough for a new apfsds round. google it kid

Heck I herd you Pakistanis can't even afford to run all your armour you have funds for fuel due to no money

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again, you cant argue without indulging into your "hate pakistan" syndrome can you [/quote]

FNFAL said:

Whenever I think of these shiny new T-54 derivatives AL Zarrars, this image reminds of the ground fact:Hollow threat.
And please, no one leaves air as filling material in combat zone.

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O mr before showing your ignorance know fact this single Tank was attacked first by an IED than 2 Suicide bombers and than 8 RPG still all 4 crew members survived almost without any injury

Storm Force said:

How many t90 in service.globally .

5000+


How many junk al khlids in service globally 300 in Pakistan only

I rest my case

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How many Leopard are in service world wide and How many Japanese Type 10 and many more better Tanks than Type 90

Plenty of better tanks than t90 in the world guys.

Thankfully they are not in service with Pakistan.

For the record better than t90 equals
Abrahams
Challenger
Leopard
Lelerc
T99
Merkava
South Korean black panther.

Our arjun us also superior to the t90