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General Thanh received the new appointed Lao defence minister, Senior Lieutenant General Sengnuon Saynhalat in Hanoi on September 16.

patrol at the Sino-Vietnamese border









Border Guard Academy in Hanoi

Airbus Defence will deliver C-295 aircraft at the beginning of 2015, and complete in 6 months. the $100m contract includes 3 aircraft, spare parts, warranty and pilot training. the birds are assembled in Sevila (Spain).

the aircraft is ideally for use of transporting troops and equipments to the islands in Spratlys.

Không quân Việt Nam nhận C-295 vào năm 2015 | Tin Việt Nam | Vietnamdefence

Viet said:

1. have you read the vietnamese article I posted. obviously not because you can´t read it
it says Russia is ready to export the missile to friendly countries, and China does not belong to this category. As Vietnam is considered as a close friend of Russia, we can have it.

2. sure, it is approved as the russian article clearly states it.

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Because we don't need that missile.

NiceGuy said:

Russia can sell nuke capable ballistic missile Shaddock with range of 550km to VN, then why not some more good missile with the range over 300km ??

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The Soviet transferred you Shaddock missiles since the 80s. Russia only agreed to MTCR from 1995 onwards. Meaning, from 1995, they agreed not to export missiles with range over 300km.

Carlosa said:

I got the info from a Russian article, I don't know if I saved it, I'll look tomorrow.

My source told me that Russia is delivering the Iskanders with the full range, Russia is not concerned with the treaty limitations for Vietnam (but of course it will never be announced like that).

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People have a right to dismiss your claim if the only evidence you have is "I have reliable source but can't tell you who".

If you come up with that article, then I'll believe you more. For now, it is senseless. If Russia don't care about the MTCR agreement, then why did they join in the first place? why would they then make a public (in russian) announcement to break that agreement? are they on a mission to discredit themselves in front of the international community?

Black Flag said:

The Soviet transferred you Shaddock missiles since the 80s. Russia only agreed to MTCR from 1995 onwards. Meaning, from 1995, they agreed not to export missiles with range over 300km.

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Soviet gave Crime to to Ukraine, now Russia take back. Promise can be changed at anytime ,dude.

NiceGuy said:

Soviet gave Crime to to Ukraine, now Russia take back. Promise can be changed at anytime ,dude.

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I was just pointing out that you don't know what that MTCR limit of 300km mean and when Russia joined MTCR.

You are welcomed to dream and live in your fantasy world where Russia will break the MTCR agreement for your country.

In the oil rig dispute, Russia was completely silent, didn't even announce their "concern" like most country did.

In 1988, Soviets at Cam Ranh Bay sit and watched while your soldiers became target practice.

But you can go ahead and dream that Russia will still come to your rescue while the reality is PRC is more important and stronger partner for Russia.

Black Flag said:

I was just pointing out that you don't know what that MTCR limit of 300km mean and when Russia joined MTCR.

You are welcomed to dream and live in your fantasy world where Russia will break the MTCR agreement for your country.

In the oil rig dispute, Russia was completely silent, didn't even announce their "concern" like most country did.

In 1988, Soviets at Cam Ranh Bay sit and watched while your soldiers became target practice.

But you can go ahead and dream that Russia will still come to your rescue while the reality is PRC is more important and stronger partner for Russia.

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Yeah, bcz we have good dream, thats why we got nuke capable ballistic missile Shaddock and Russia expert even help us to upgrade it

Any way: we dont even know where do u come from ?? do ur country have better missile than VN shaddock ??

NiceGuy said:

Yeah, bcz we have good dream, thats why we got nuke capable ballistic missile Shaddock.

Any way: we dont even know where do u come from ?? do ur country have better missile than VN shaddock ??

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So you admit you're dreaming now? that's good.

In the future, around the time your daughter grows older, I will also become VN citizen. So yes, you can say my "country" have shaddock.

Black Flag said:

So you admit you're dreaming now? that's good.

In the future, around the time your daughter grows older, I will also become VN citizen. So yes, you can say my "country" have shaddock.

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Poor troll, keep masturbating on internet, I dont waste time wt a low IQ like u any more, bye bye .

NiceGuy said:

Poor troll, keep masturbating on internet, I dont waste time wt a low IQ like u any more, bye bye .

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Then why do you always quote and tag me?

I just realized something, I think you are actually a Chinese spy living in VN to make Viet people look bad? You always say nonsense things to make people laugh at you, like bragging about the 60s era shaddock missiles.

You always troll into VN thread to derail and off topic. Like in this VN military thread here, me and Viet and Carlosa were having friendly discussion about Iskander missiles and its range, then you joined in to troll and derail the topic.

Hmmm, my conclusion is you are a Chinese spy here to make Viet people look bad. I think all Chinese members here should give you a proper comrade greetings!

LeveragedBuyout said:

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stop red china, while the dude beside her raises a red flag of communist vietnam. lol

Also @LeveragedBuyout

look at that yellow line, that's almost to our line. Them and their fishing boat navy wants to pretty much box us in.

I'm not saying if that's right or wrong, but if successful, our carrier can't even leave to go into Indian ocean. I mean no way they can stop our ships from moving, but either way their claim is pretty ridicules.

I'm not saying this to mean something, just thought no English article to date I read have talked about the Philippines' claim and Vietnam's claim, what they mean to the region, to each other, and to China.

Genesis said:

stop red china, while the dude beside her raises a red flag of communist vietnam. lol

Also @LeveragedBuyout

look at that yellow line, that's almost to our line. Them and their fishing boat navy wants to pretty much box us in.

I'm not saying if that's right or wrong, but if successful, our carrier can't even leave to go into Indian ocean. I mean no way they can stop our ships from moving, but either way their claim is pretty ridicules.

I'm not saying this to mean something, just thought no English article to date I read have talked about the Philippines' claim and Vietnam's claim, what they mean to the region, to each other, and to China.

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I am in no position to make judgments about the merits of the various borders, I just thought the video was interesting. From an outsider's point of view, though, the maximalist claims of all of the parties seem to be a recipe for war, whether it's Vietnam's reach east, or China's attempt to claim the SCS all the way down to Malaysia. How much more convenient for everyone if the area were as peaceful as the Gulf of Mexico.

LeveragedBuyout said:

How much more convenient for everyone if the area were as peaceful as the Gulf of Mexico.

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Just keep this in mind: The US:Mexico GDP balance is 14:1. The Chinese:Vietnamese GDP balance is 54:1.

Vietnam produces the same amount of original science research than Kenya despite a much larger GDP and population.

China, meanwhile, has been either the top or the second top (next to only the US) publisher of original scientific research in key indicators of national progress such as materials science, physical chemistry, condensed matter physics, nanoscience, electronic materials, electrical engineering, etc. for the past 5 years. The country that is strongest in these fields will rule the future, since advanced materials are one of the few remaining bottlenecks for rapid advances in all fields ranging from photonics to quantum information to space exploration.

SJR - International Science Ranking

Do you see now why their wild claims are laughable and futile?