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telkon said:

i have some books to be translated by the end of this month.

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u are a translator

@rmi5

Are your parents and grandparents were nationalists too ?

Targon said:

@rmi5

Are your parents and grandparents were nationalists too ?

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wait a min where did this come from ?

asena_great said:

wait a min where did this come from ?

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Its just suddenly came to mind I was wondering if its started by him personally(therefore a modern, media influenced stance), or a family view that predates revolution.

What about your family ?

Targon said:

Its just suddenly came to mind I was wondering if its started by him personally(therefore a modern, media influenced stance), or a family view that predates revolution.

What about your family ?

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ohh $hit i should't ask that question now the blade is on my shoulder !

actually my mother is not nationalists at all she born in religious family in the other hand my father was total anti religious one (i just wonder how it came for them to merry ) btw after marriage my mother become less religious and my father become little bit more religious (at least he respect religion but that was all he never pray namaz or he never gone for mosque and he keep drink alcoholic drinks unlike my mother , she never drinks ) but my father far from nationalists u must tell me what do u mean by nationalists if u are talking about pan turkism no my father only respect for nationalists of his people and not all his people only those of his people whom live in his region

asena_great said:

ohh $hit i should't ask that question now the blade is on my shoulder !

actually my mother is not nationalists at all she born in religious family in the other hand my father was total anti religious one (i just wonder how it came for them to merry ) btw after marriage my mother become less religious and my father become little bit more religious (at least he respect religion but that was all he never pray namaz or he never gone for mosque and he keep drink alcoholic drinks unlike my mother , she never drinks ) but my father far from nationalists u must tell me what do u mean by nationalists if u are talking about pan turkism no my father only respect for nationalists of turkmens and not all turkmen only turkmens of his region

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Well nationalism is not only about fierce political stance for example my father is not really an active political nationalist, but he's patriotic, he values Turkishness, Turkish history and culture etc.

Targon said:

Well nationalism is not only about fierce political stance for example my father is not really an active political nationalist, but he's patriotic, he values Turkishness, Turkish history and culture etc.

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well in this case we can say my father some how was nationalism ofc he didn't pay attention to politic ( he always say all of politician are thief and Liars ) but he buy a lot of book about turkmens and turkmen dictionary and give a turkmen name to all of his children

asena_great said:

well in this case we can say my father some how was nationalism ofc he didn't pay attention to politic ( he always say all of politician are thief and Liars ) but he buy a lot of book about turkmens and turkmen dictionary and give a turkmen name to all of his children

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What he thinks about other Turkic countries ?

Targon said:

What he thinks about other Turkic countries ?

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well he was came from generation of old turkmen thought , u know around 1905 we start a war and that war end as disaster for us i even today i can hear some horrible tale from our elders so he dislike all people whom were neighbor to us seeing them as responsible for that disaster end he dislike armenians russians kazakhs uzbeks kurds persians note that uzbkes and kazaks fight against us and still small number of kazaks still live in our region they are from those kazakhs whom served russian later persians btw he loved turkey he loved ataturk and if u wanna know what people of that time think about ottoman , my father always told me the story of my grand grand mother whom pray for ottoman victory in ww1 like most of womens if her area they thought the turks holding banner of islam and if this banner fall from their hands kıyamet will happens

Targon said:

@rmi5

Are your parents and grandparents were nationalists too ?

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That's a too general question. it depends on how you define nationalism. In some senses, even my opinions are not much nationalistic. About my family, as I have previously said, we have Qajar roots, so the older generations of my family were more like intellectuals of that era. A couple of them are also famous, and more educated Iranian members will definitely know them. They were mostly secular liberals. They were reading books of people like voltaire, and were more into establishing a secular system than nationalism. another part of my family, has religious roots. But, if you refer to their opinions about Azerbaijan, all of them, both secular and religious always have had strong senses about Azerbaijan. I have been raised with that culture and mentality, and ...
But, if you ask in general about South Azerbaijanis, the younger generations are more nationalistic about Azerbaijan, and overwhelming majority is in favor of separating from Iran and joining Northern Azerbaijan. 1) The independence of North Azerbaijan, and also 2) the conflict with Armenians in Karabagh and 3) supporting of Armenia by Iranians, has had a big role in making southern Azerbaijanis more nationalists. Hopefully, North is in the route of progress which will Southerners even more nationalistic. If north can manage to free the karabagh, it would cause a massive wave of nationalism, ... in south as well

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Look to this app it shows you how much a nuke bomb effects your city......cool app

Atilla_ORANKAY said:

NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein
Look to this app it shows you how much a nuke bomb effects your city......cool app
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Thats less then what I imagined, considering the gap between bomb at Hiroshima and Tsar Bomba, I thought it would erase entire country from the map but its barely covers my region and not even all of it.

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true dat.
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