Chinese Navy (PLAN) News & Discussions

bolo said:

@english_man what private think tank agency do you work for?

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trick question eh?

btw.................has there been any updates recently of the 'Wuhan mockup of the 055 Cruiser/Destroyer?

what kind of a world are we living in? An English man who is a cheerleader for PLAN

terranMarine said:

what kind of a world are we living in? An English man who is a cheerleader for PLAN

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Yes, we are living in a crazy world!

Well many military enthusiasts are following China's military buildup. because for one its quite fascinating at the speed of their progress.........and because they seem to be the only people with enough money, to afford any new military hardware.
Its also intriguing to follow the development of the Chinese military buildup as we have very little information in advance of what is going on there.
Last year i was in China, and i remember, visiting Chinese bookshops, looking up on military matters...............but for some reason, i didn't understand the text!..........

In the UK and Europe for example, any new warship commissionings seem to be a rare event these days!

..........meanwhile in the US, military enthusiasts there, are just shaking their heads at the disastrous LCS warship program.... ..and i'am sure many there look in envy at the Chinese 056 Corvette class, which is coming along very nicely. I predict a further 3 056's will join the Chinese Navy by the end of the year!

It is not entirely inconceivable that DL's 1st 052D DDG gets launched before the end of the year.

And DL's 2nd 052D is chasing at the heels of its older brother.

Black Flag said:

He definitely doesn't sound like a government spy like Mi6. Those Mi6 guys probably know a lot more about the PLA than Chinese enthusiasts or netizens. But this English_man could very well be an employee of those western private think tank/analysts company like Strafor. Have you seen those wiki leaks from Strafor? they sound surprisingly amateurish and lazy.

Btw English_man, if you are a spy for those private org, can you make me some connection? I would like to work for those kind of org.

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I asked he will not say

cirr said:

It is not entirely inconceivable that DL's 1st 052D DDG gets launched before the end of the year.

And DL's 2nd 052D is chasing at the heels of its older brother.

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The thing is 'Cirr' do we know when this photo was taken?................lets say it was recently.............then if the module was of an 052D.............then i would expect, probably at best Dalians first 052D wont be launched until the Spring of next year. Remember, first the modules have to be aligned together, before the real assembly work begins. Incidently, does Dalian have large enough sheds to assemble an 052D indoors?.......or will the assembly be done totally outside?. I ask as people have mentioned its very difficult to get pictures of warship construction at Dalian!..................apart from the Carrier Liaoning!

Also any news on the new Frigate 054B or 057 (whatever it will be called)?.............i expect this vessel to have a similar size, and weapon sophistication equivalent to our Royal Navy Type 26 Frigates, which will start construction in a few years?

terranMarine said:

what kind of a world are we living in? An English man who is a cheerleader for PLAN

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He is fake.

English location flag, English flag avatar, and that "Englishman" ID. He is afraid that people may find out he isn't English, so he did this.

Edison Chen said:

He is fake.

English location flag, English flag avatar, and that "Englishman" ID. He is afraid that people may find out he isn't English, so he did this.

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Perhaps, who knows , the guy sure is obsessed with China's Naval buildup for some reason.

bolo said:

I asked he will not say

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It's funny, cause he's really obssessed with only one certain area of the PLAN. Most enthusiast's interest are more general and not this obsessive. He could also just be writing a book or starting a website lol.

I'll give you one example of email leaks from Stratfor posted on wiki leaks.

One client of Stratfor emailed and asked the "analyst expert" what the internal security apparatus and order of the PRC is like.

The "expert" then emailed and asked his colleague what does "security apparatus/order" means lol. Yes, that "expert" doesn't even know what those words mean and don't know what his client is asking for lol.

Then I think his colleague has to ask another colleague. Then finally, someone explained it to them and said he can maybe come up with something for the client. I'm not sure how they came up with something for their client, maybe they just ask on Internet forums lol.

Black Flag said:

It's funny, cause he's really obssessed with only one certain area of the PLAN. Most enthusiast's interest are more general and not this obsessive. He could also just be writing a book or starting a website lol.

I'll give you one example of email leaks from Stratfor posted on wiki leaks.

One client of Stratfor emailed and asked the "analyst expert" what the internal security apparatus and order of the PRC is like.

The "expert" then emailed and asked his colleague what does "security apparatus/order" means lol. Yes, that "expert" doesn't even know what those words mean and don't know what his client is asking for lol.

Then I think his colleague has to ask another colleague. Then finally, someone explained it to them and said he can maybe come up with something for the client. I'm not sure how they came up with something for their client, maybe they just ask on Internet forums lol.

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Not surprised at all. Even Jane's defense report wrong information about PRC arsenal as they are supposed to be a military expert publication. Englishman could very well be that Stratfor expert. Andei Chang , aka Pinkov should learn from Englishman how to get free military information.

bolo said:

Not surprised at all. Even Jane's defense report wrong information about PRC arsenal as they are supposed to be a military expert publication. Englishman could very well be that Stratfor expert. Andei Chang , aka Pinkov should learn from Englishman how to get free military information.

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Baldy Pinkov knows China's real capability.

However, there are many low IQ folks who love to bash China on everything, that's why Kanwa is writing those rubbish articles in order to appease those blockheads.

ChineseTiger1986 said:

Baldy Pinkov knows China's real capability.

However, there are many low IQ folks who love to bash China on everything, that's why Kanwa is writing those rubbish articles in order to appease those blockheads.

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For all we know Pinkov could be a Chinese operative under cover.

cirr said:

For all we know Pinkov could be a Chinese operative under cover.

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Yeah, there is a sarcasm about that; him and Gordon Chang.

bolo said:

I asked he will not say

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ChineseTiger1986 said:

Yeah, there is a sarcasm about that; him and Gordon Chang.

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terranMarine said:

Perhaps, who knows , the guy sure is obsessed with China's Naval buildup for some reason.

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ni hao

Ummmm.....i agree.......its true that he is only interested in Chinese Naval matters and not their air force and army.
But he is not fake......he is English, i know him well.

btw:- i agree 'Janes' publications, and other Western sources seem to lag behind on information that web users know on Chinese military matters.

Anyway..........i'am off on vacation now for a week, and hope there is lots of juicy news from members here when i return! ........xiexie

english_man said:

Ummmm.....i agree.........something suspicious about this guy?....its true that he is only interested in Chinese Naval matters and not their air force and army.
But he is not fake......he is English, i know him well.

btw:- i agree 'Janes' publications, and other Western sources seem to lag behind on information that web users know on Chinese military matters.

Anyway..........i'am off on vacation now for a week, and hope there is lots of juicy news from members here when i return!

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If you do encounter an electron microscope for sale while you are off, grab one