Serbian defense industry

RAMPAGE said:

More info on that ATGM plz !!!

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BUMBAR (BUMBLE-BEE) SHORT RANGE ANTI-TANK MISSILE WEAPON
http://www.vti.mod.gov.rs/film/bumbar/BUMBAR.html
Bumbar is man-portable, short range guided anti-tank weapon system, designed in accordance with following development guidelines:
• Tandem hollow charge warhead, capable to destroy modern tanks with reactive homogenous armor;
• SACLOS guidance, improved anti-jamming protection based on sequential frames differential processing, and frequency, time and space discrimination;
• All terrains fighting capabilities including urban areas because missile can be launched from confined space;
• Shoulder or tripod launching modes.

BUMBAR COMPONENTS:

Main BUMBAR subsystems are:
• Firing post (sight-localizer-guidance computer /SLGC/ unit, junction box to provide connection between the missile round and the firing post, firing handles with the trigger button and safety device and thermal camera for night firings, which can be simply connected to the SLGC unit;
• Missile in launching tube;
• Tripod.

GENAERAL PERFORMANCE DATA
• Missile calibre 136 mm
• Minimum range 75 m
• Maximum range 600 m
• Flight time up to max range 4.6 s
• Hit probability 90%
• System realibility 90%
• Penetration behind ERA 900 mm
• Mass of weapon 19.8 kg
• Mass of tripod 4 kg
• Mass of firing post 4 kg
• Length of weapon 1.164 mm
• Temperature range -30 oC to 50 oC
• Crew 1+1

SYSTEM FUNCTION IMPROVEMENTS
• Increasing of maximum range up to 1000 m
• Laser beam riding


There is more data and pics on the first page of this topic:
Serbian defense industry

Great overview of Serbian defence industry, with a lot of never seen footage of Nora B52, Lazar 1 and 2, BOV M11....

proka89 said:

Great overview of Serbian defence industry, with a lot of never seen footage of Nora B52, Lazar 1 and 2, BOV M11....

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if you know what i mean

BDforever said:

if you know what i mean

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Nothing new. But you can see new footage of Bangladesh Nora B 52, and BOV M1 in the video above.

But unofficially, i heard that there are some problems with the production on our side, and that we might even pay some penalties for delays. Of course, those are only rumors, and i can't say, are they true or not.

Nice to see the modern machine tools , Huge HAAS CNC lathe at 10:38 in the video followed by a large milling machine and CNC plasma cutter. Where are the production hold-ups, too much manual assembly and welding?

On a side note, they're just gettingt the MIG's back in the air after 2 months!

proka89 said:

BUMBAR (BUMBLE-BEE) SHORT RANGE ANTI-TANK MISSILE WEAPON
Bumbar is man-portable, short range guided anti-tank weapon system, designed in accordance with following development guidelines:
• Tandem hollow charge warhead, capable to destroy modern tanks with reactive homogenous armor;
• SACLOS guidance, improved anti-jamming protection based on sequential frames differential processing, and frequency, time and space discrimination;
• All terrains fighting capabilities including urban areas because missile can be launched from confined space;
• Shoulder or tripod launching modes.

BUMBAR COMPONENTS:

Main BUMBAR subsystems are:
• Firing post (sight-localizer-guidance computer /SLGC/ unit, junction box to provide connection between the missile round and the firing post, firing handles with the trigger button and safety device and thermal camera for night firings, which can be simply connected to the SLGC unit;
• Missile in launching tube;
• Tripod.

GENAERAL PERFORMANCE DATA
• Missile calibre 136 mm
• Minimum range 75 m
• Maximum range 600 m
• Flight time up to max range 4.6 s
• Hit probability 90%
• System realibility 90%
• Penetration behind ERA 900 mm
• Mass of weapon 19.8 kg
• Mass of tripod 4 kg
• Mass of firing post 4 kg
• Length of weapon 1.164 mm
• Temperature range -30 oC to 50 oC
• Crew 1+1

SYSTEM FUNCTION IMPROVEMENTS
• Increasing of maximum range up to 1000 m
• Laser beam riding

There is more data and pics on the first page of this topic:
Serbian defense industry

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when did you develop this? It looks like a copy of the Turkish cobra.

atatwolf said:

when did you develop this? It looks like a copy of the Turkish cobra.

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It's a recent project of private Serbian company Azimuth DPS. They are developing this vehicle for Angola. To me it looks like some crossbreed of Cobra and VBL.

proka89 said:

It's a recent project of private Serbian company Azimuth DPS. They are developing this vehicle for Angola. To me it looks like some crossbreed of Cobra and VBL.

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Good job... I hope it succeeds

proka89 said:

We were never part of Soviet union. For the large part of Yugoslavia existence, we were preparing for the war with the Soviets Yugoslav defence industry did buy some license from the Soviet union (malyutka, strela 2m, T72..), but we were never part of Soviet defence industry.

Tito–Stalin split - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yugoslav defence industry was one of the largest in the Europe. But production of complex systems was divided between the republics. For example around 300 hundred companies from around Yugoslavia participated in production of M84 MBT. And today many of those companies do not exist, or they are producing something else. And none of the countries individually or all of them together would not be able to make M84 today. Also many of the companies from defence industry were destroyed or damaged during the wars in Yugoslavia. So basically all of the Former Yugoslav republics today export military equipment worth around 500 million of dollars, and in the 80's Yugoslav defence industry was exporting military equipment worth around 1.3 billion of dollars per year.

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Good explanation. Btw, I am a proud owner of a Yugoslav SKS.

Huge SALE , everything must go. Please buy something, we need new Mig's : )

BELGRADE – Ministry of Defence of Serbia announced that it will begin the sale of 282 T-55 tanks , 220 armored personnel carriers M-60, M-80, BTR-50 and BTR-60 and antitank weapons POLO, as well as 200 howitzers of 105 and 155 millimeters.The Ministry will offer about 16,700 7.65-millimeter pistols, approximately 3,500 automatic rifles M-70, about 120,000 grenades and about 1,500 missiles.Interested parties can buy more than 1,100 anti-aircraft guns of 20 and 30 millimeters caliber and about 5,400 hand-held rocket launchers, mortars and recoilless rifles, and on sale will also be multiple rocket launchers and 26 missiles M-63.

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draganm said:

Huge SALE , everything must go. Please buy something, we need new Mig's : )

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men what you post it,s just full of junk, are this weapons in working condition?

masud said:

men what you post it,s just full of junk, are this weapons in working condition?

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well I think it's important to be honest about what this stuff is. This is not front line equipment coming straight from Serbian army active forces. Wiki shows Serbia has or had, 550 T55's- 260 in reserve. So the sale is for the reserve equipment that was probably last used in the Yugoslav wars of the 1990's. So no, most of it is probably not useable as is. The pictures that were posted in the other thread showed pictures from Yugoimport SPDR of fully modified T55's and BTR-50's represent what this equipment can be turned into, and I'm sure Yugoimport would be happy to deliver the equipment in any configuration the buyer is willing to pay for. However it appears to me that currently the stuff is being represented in as-is condition.
IMO this is actually the best circumstance for any potential buyer. If you have an Industrial capacity at home and want to buy equipment that you can modify or refurbish + create jobs at home, then it's a cheap way to get the basic hardware complete with all engines, armaments, running gear, etc., probably for not much cost. I would expect the government is accepting bids in a closed auction type sale.
IMO , The T55's are probably best suited to either countries fighting insurgencies where there is no opposing armor forces, Or conversion into BTR-T infantry fighting vehicles, MTU bridge layers, IMR combat engineering vehicles, armored recovery vehicles , etc. Eventually, Serbia will sell all it's T55's, even the active duty ones, just like Poland did.
Proka needs to come back, he probably knows more about this.