terror attack in xingjing 07.28

Lux de Veritas said:

Because I am a nuisance to some PDF PRC who support radical Islam. I poke fun of them whenever such event occurs and make them look stupid.

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I thought Uyghur problem was more ethnic rather than religious?

ozzy22 said:

I thought Uyghur problem was more ethnic rather than religious?

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None of ethnic tensions within China has shown as much violent nature as "Uyghur problem", considering the many ethnic groups within PRC. Also the "Uyghur problem" has shown many similarities with "islamic movements" from many other regions in the world in both methods and nature, the reason must be the religious aspect.

Huaren said:

None of ethnic tensions within China has shown as much violent nature as "Uyghur problem", considering the many ethnic groups within PRC. Also the "Uyghur problem" has shown many similarities with "islamic movements" from many other regions in the world in both methods and nature, the reason must be the religious aspect.

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My knowledge of this subject is vague, but I thought the Uyghur’s were pissed that they were being displaced by the Han Chinese.

Anyway hope things get better

Lux de Veritas said:

Because I am a nuisance to some PDF PRC who support radical Islam. I poke fun of them whenever such event occurs and make them look stupid.

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They are Muslims themselves, so just ignore them like I did. No Han Chinese will sympathize with radical Islam. I am telling you, when Indonesian Muslims massacred Chinese, those Muslims in China instead made bunch of excuses for the killing and blame Chinese instead. That's when I started realizing that Muslims are natural traitors to the country and their kinship is with other Muslims.

ozzy22 said:

My knowledge of this subject is vague, but I thought the Uyghur’s were pissed that they were being displaced by the Han Chinese.

Anyway hope things get better

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I am not sure about that, since northern Xingjiang has always been historically dominated by Han and other ethnics, while Uyghurs live in the southern part. Plus, even if that's true, any citizens have freedom to migrate anywhere in the country. The Uyghurs have migrated into inner land, too, lots of street vendors in big cities. That's rather a stupid excuse and only radical haters will kill people if some people move into your neighborhood.

Huaren said:

None of ethnic tensions within China has shown as much violent nature as "Uyghur problem", considering the many ethnic groups within PRC. Also the "Uyghur problem" has shown many similarities with "islamic movements" from many other regions in the world in both methods and nature, the reason must be the religious aspect.

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It has similarities but for example the Hui are different then Uyghurs and both dislike each other (cause the Hui are loyal to China since they are muslim Hans)

Okemos said:

They are Muslims themselves, so just ignore them like I did. No Han Chinese will sympathize with radical Islam. I am telling you, when Indonesian Muslims massacred Chinese, those Muslims in China instead made bunch of excuses for the killing and blame Chinese instead. That's when I started realizing that Muslims are natural traitors to the country and their kinship is with other Muslims.



I am not sure about that, since northern Xingjiang has always been historically dominated by Han and other ethnics, while Uyghurs live in the southern part. Plus, even if that's true, any citizens have freedom to migrate anywhere in the country. The Uyghurs have migrated into inner land, too, lots of street vendors in big cities. That's rather a stupid excuse and only radical haters will kill people if some people move into your neighborhood.

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So Hui are natural traitors?
All Hui who fought against China would be ashamed of you

All the work of Turkish-backed terrorists.

This terrorist attack in Xinjiang is not the first time and will not be the last time. It's useless to get anger or obsessed knowing that kind of event will repeat over and over again until Chinese governement find the proper solution.

Some of my Chinese Brothers like to put the blame on muslim or Uyghurs but me I put the blame to Chinese gorvernment, such incompetent to let over 7 or 8 attacks within a year is just a fcking joke of 21st century...if Chinese intelligent agency couln't anticipate the eminent attack or take the preventive measure against unsophisticalted terrorist organization than how will they gonna handle the more deadly enemies in the future?.

....or maybe should I speculate that was a deliberated act of Chinese gorverment to let the attack happened in order to catch the bigger fish: throughout Chinese history, the goverment had no hesitation to sacrify chinese's blood in order to achieve the ultimate goald....you guys can desagree with me or slap on my face...I just say what I have to say.

The only thing I can do is offer my condolence to the family of the victimes,

Sad to hear this. I do hope that the violence in China's western corridor be -- hemmed. Wishing all the best to our partners in China.

A sad news indeed...
i see a shift in Chinese opinion,Pakistanis must be watching with google translator,,

"Voice of America", "Radio Free Asia" is a supporter of terrorism
Should be listed as a terrorist organization

ozzy22 said:

I thought Uyghur problem was more ethnic rather than religious?

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I agree to some extent, in recent years, from 2009 broke out, it is because the United States and other Western countries backed to religion as a cover for terrorist attacks.
In addition, Americans use Islamic radicalism agitation

Ahiska said:

It has similarities but for example the Hui are different then Uyghurs and both dislike each other (cause the Hui are loyal to China since they are muslim Hans)

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Hui is a special case; to begin with the origin of Hui is too diverse to be considered as single group, rather it happened gradually in the history during many past dynasties when various groups (which were half or fully intergrated within China) took up the loose identity. However Hui also had their share of ethnic tensions within China, distrust against Han or chinese state power has resulted in many bloody rebellions and conflicts with Han neighbours. Although it is true that even during time of such conflicts there were always Hui people who fight with Han or the state against other Hui rebels. There are just too many different "branches" of hui people, and many (if not most) of them are too similiar with Han majority.

Also because Hui chinese have suffered the same fate as most chinese people in time of Chaos and at the hand of foreign power, their "religious" understanding was closely linked to nationalism, they have gone as far as fighting against islamic separatists (like uyghur or hui minority) with great enthusiasm to preserve chinese unity. In their case the chinese identity is preventing any significant separatism movement of religious or even ethnic nature.

But Uyghur is a totally different case, while Hui identity is native to china uyghur had their own identity even before they moved to Xinjiang\Western China from their homeland of Mongolian steppe, converting, assimilliating (and of course killing) the disunified native people of Xinjiang ever since they moved in, as of today especially in southern part of Xinjiang where countless pre islamic central asian kingdoms once stood only the Uyghur are left to be called as the "native". Of course it would be wrong to only blame uyghur for the extinction of the "other" native minority groups in the region; the expansion of islamic influence ever since the days of Arabian empire, various invasions and fightings of steppe hordes and last but not least the weakness of chinese central state especially during time of chaos, effectively failing to honor the ancient pledge to maintain peace in the Xinjiang ever since China first build its protectorate to face the Xiongnu empire. Today only few non uyghur minority groups are left in Xinjiang, almost all islamic and have experienced genocide at the hand of uyghurs (and Russians), most of them managed to holding up in northern Xinjiang where most Han people live, with deep hatred against uyghurs but no way of ever taking revenge.

While its true that many uyghurs took up chinese identity in the modern age, their understanding of it is fundamentally different than hui people, contrarily they are putting ethnic and religious identity higher than the national identity, similar with people in the middle east or northern africa which ultimatively caused subdivision along the ethnic lines and even religious infighting, state power only managed to maintain national stability and integrity with iron fist (millitary governance). In the end that might be the only option for China as well.

I hate religion !

So sad to hear about this. Rest in Peace. My condolences.

新疆清真寺两万多座，按人口比例不仅超过中亚，也超过埃及伊朗等伊斯兰国家，有的一个村就有几个清真寺，密度太高，现在西方媒体却在鼓吹中国限制宗教自由
维族日渐保守化，妇女戴面纱比例逐年升高，官办的阿訇水平太低，吸引不了群众。为什么沙特的瓦哈比传播那么快，你要知道沙特宗教宣传是沙特的官方教义学家，在美国的宗教学家和宗教心理学家的帮助下编写出来的，代表了美国宗教理论界和心理学界的最高水平，所以体系严密，很快占领了南疆，成为主流信仰。
南疆维族汉语水平低下，很多人好逸恶劳，，宁愿待在家乡受穷，也不愿出来。出来的变成非法团伙，搞那些不合法的偷盗，贩毒等事情，严重影响民族关系。政府推广双语教育，部分别有用心的人士却不断攻击政府意图消灭维族文化，他们的意图无非是让大多数维族人永不精通汉语，隔绝在主流社会之外，这些人居心是极其恶毒的

My condolence to the victims of terrorism. Hope Chinese govt. and people find solution to the root problem that is causing these recurring terror incidents - whether that is foreign instigation or homegrown grievances or a combination of both.