Turkish Missile Programs

cabatli_53 · Apr 14, 2014

T129 : Official Wing storees payload 4 x 300kg
UMTAS Missile < 37.5 kg; 4 Missiles + Launcher < 210kg

210kg x 4 station = 840kg Total weight of 16 UMTAS + launchers (Atak has 1200kg total payload capacity )

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Combat-Master said:
1200kg payload capacity for each wing, I'm certain weight would not be an issue.

Correction 1200kg total, 300kg each weapon store.

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xxxKULxxx · Apr 15, 2014

cabatli_53 said:
T129 : Official Wing storees payload 4 x 300kg
UMTAS Missile < 37.5 kg; 4 Missiles + Launcher < 210kg

210kg x 4 station = 840kg Total weight of 16 UMTAS + launchers (Atak has 1200kg total payload capacity )

So we can load some more...

cabatli_53 · Apr 15, 2014

Turkish style development !!!

Mızrak Missile family...

*Mizrak-EU (Extended range Mizrak)
*Mizrak-D (Naval variant of Mizrak-U with longer engagement range)
*Mizrak-U
-MizrakU-Lazer
-MizrakU-Infrared
-MizrakU-Milimetricwave
*Mizrak-O
*Mizrak-TE

Cruise Missile Family !!!

Som-J: Around 280km
SOM: 300km
SOM-ER: 500-800km
Gezgin: Around 1500km (Ship/Land based)

------- · Apr 15, 2014

Expecting to see one of the Mizrak derivatives replacing Penguin ASM. :cheesy:

cabatli_53 · Apr 15, 2014

Combat-Master said:
Expecting to see one of the Mizrak derivatives replacing Penguin ASM.

Bro, Hope to see Mizrak-D that will have a range around 30km, Otherwise, It will be impossible to replace Penguin missiles but I suppose that Armerkom along with Roketsan is planning to develop a Mizrak derivative which will be an equvalent of HellFire Naval, not Penguin...

------- · Apr 15, 2014

cabatli_53 said:
Bro, Hope to see Mizrak-D that will have a range around 30km, Otherwise, It will be impossible to replace Penguin missiles...

If one of derivatives is canister launched like Israeli NLOS, there shouldn't be any problem with making it a naval missile.

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LegionnairE · Apr 15, 2014

cabatli_53 said:
T129 : Official Wing storees payload 4 x 300kg
UMTAS Missile < 37.5 kg; 4 Missiles + Launcher < 210kg

210kg x 4 station = 840kg Total weight of 16 UMTAS + launchers (Atak has 1200kg total payload capacity )

Last time we calculated this wasn't the case, obviously something has changed.

I'd like to learn the weight of that cirit canister, see if we can get 3x Mızrak-U + 4x Cirit for each pylon. That makes 16 cirits and 12 UMTAS. +2x sidewinders, not bad at all actually better than what I expected. But I think M197 gun + 20mm ammo belt may eat a lot of payload capacity too.

cabatli_53 said:
Bro, Hope to see Mizrak-D that will have a range around 30km, Otherwise, It will be impossible to replace Penguin missiles but I suppose that Armerkom along with Roketsan is planning to develop a Mizrak derivative which will be an equvalent of HellFire Naval, not Penguin...

I'll be happy if we can get an equivalent of JAGM with 15-16 kilometers range...

With Gören project and ANKA going to mass production we'll have lots of eyes on the ground. Off-visual range munitions will become very useful.

BUT SCREW THAT if this info is correct(1200kg payload capacity) we can load SOMs on T129 :lol:

cabatli_53 · Apr 18, 2014

Hisar-A Missile Engagement details

Altitude: 15000ft
Range: 15km

Hisar-O Missile Engagement details

Altitude: 30000ft
Range: 40km

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Hisar Family of Surface to Air Missile:

Hisar-Manpad: 6-8km
Hisar-A: 15km
Hisar-O:40km

revojam · Apr 18, 2014

cabatli_53 said:
Hisar-A Missile Engagement details

Altitude: 15000ft
Range: 15km

Hisar-O Missile Engagement details

Altitude: 30000ft
Range: 40km

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Hisar Family of Surface to Air Missile:

Hisar-Manpad: 6-8km
Hisar-A: 15km
Hisar-O:40km

Your source? Specially the range of O.

[TR]AHMET · Apr 18, 2014

cabatli_53 said:
Hisar-A Missile Engagement details

Altitude: 15000ft
Range: 15km

Hisar-O Missile Engagement details

Altitude: 30000ft
Range: 40km

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Hisar Family of Surface to Air Missile:

Hisar-Manpad: 6-8km
Hisar-A: 15km
Hisar-O:40km

if your sources are solid these informations make us very happy! so what happened those sensors which europe didn't give us ? i think aselsan overcome ?

-SINAN- · Apr 18, 2014

revojam said:
our source? Specially the range of O

I remember Hisar-A's range was 10km...and Hisar-O's range was 16 km.

cabatli_53 · Apr 18, 2014

revojam said:
Your source? Specially the range of O.

S&H Magazine, Armed Forces official range demands, Previous tender's project requirements which was cancelled to commence Hisar series as a replacement.

Sinan said:
I remember Hisar-A's range was 10km...and Hisar-O's range was 16 km.

The jet motor Roketsan designed and developed for Aspide missile carries an old design to 30 km, but Own designed much more advanced missile with more advanced jet motor just have a range of 16km ? How realistic is that ? Don't believe so much of ranges revealed by TSKGV institutes.

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